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Post by Karen Bean on Aug 23, 2013 14:02:21 GMT -5
The Daytona Challenge Event has advertised $10,000 in prize money to be distributed to the armwrestling event. Due to the fact that we were hired to advertise and run this event, we wanted assurance that the prize money was indeed and in fact there, so we asked for assurances.
Simply, we asked that the prize money be made available prior to the start of the event Friday, October 3. The response we received was that H and H Fitness Promotions, Inc. would distribute the prize money on Saturday evening after the contest was finished.
We requested an assurance, especially due to the events pertaining to the Vegas event surrounding the prize money, and asked that the prize money be brought to the athlete's meeting Friday, October 3 at 9am to be counted out as a show of good faith.
To date, we have received no response whatsoever!
As some of you may be aware, another organization was originally "hired" to do the event before we were. After speaking with the owner of that organization, he had the same problems and concerns we have had regarding this event. He also was not be given any guaranteed assurance that the prize money would be paid.
This event most likely will continue. We are not encouraging anyone not to attend. We are however letting the armwrestling population know well in advance that not one single dime of prize money is guaranteed to be paid.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Aug 23, 2013 16:06:57 GMT -5
F-ING figures..,who's next?
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Post by Erick "Zap" Szczap on Aug 23, 2013 18:28:41 GMT -5
Had a bad feeling when it vanished from the 'upcoming tournaments'. Very disappointed.
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Post by John Wilson on Aug 23, 2013 21:43:35 GMT -5
All this money dropping from the sky from people nobody's ever heard of.... six years into a recession.... Dammit. But you can't help but try to be optimistic.
New policy: In God we trust, all others pay cash
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Post by TK on Aug 24, 2013 7:01:42 GMT -5
Sorry to hear Karen!
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Post by Bobby Cline on Aug 24, 2013 12:57:02 GMT -5
guy i speak with the promoter everday the money is there the sponcers are huge and theres over 16 of them i have met with some of the sponcers in person and they are all very suportive of this event and it is goin to be huge and the monet is def there and both the promoters are new to arm wrestling but they have done nothing but prove to me that they have money ans sponcers to to back them up .........i understand as a competitor the travals that its hard cause there are alot of promoters out there that are not doing what they say but i can speak for these guy and i will keep backing them and this tornament 100% if i had come up with 10,000 to give for prize money i would want to be the guy handing out the money
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Post by Karen Bean on Aug 24, 2013 16:35:41 GMT -5
Bobby - to clarify - I never asked for the money to be given to me. I asked that the money be brought into the athlete's meeting at 9am Friday morning to be counted in front of the athletes as a show of good faith that the money was there. That request was not granted nor was a contract signed verifying that $10,000 was guaranteed to be paid to the armwrestling athletes.
You cannot state that the money is definitely there and be accurate. You have nothing in writing stating anything is definite.
I know that you and Danial were asked by Craig Soubliere to come to Daytona so some photographs could be taken of you guys on a table to replace the photo of Bill Collins that is still on the Daytona Challenge website. Even though Bill was no longer a part of the event, the organizer was still using his photo. And, to date, the photo is still on there and has not been changed. I also know that for your time and trouble, you and Daniel were given some guns and ammunition from the gun store owner that is giving away a free handgun to the lady that wins the bikini armwrestling. And, they're also paying for your hotel rooms for the weekend of the event.
All wishing and hoping aside Bobby, business is business. You cannot promise armwrestlers $1 or $1,000,000 worth of prize money without guaranteeing it and if anyone has a problem putting their name on the dotted line to do so, something is definitely not right.
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Post by Craig Soubliere on Aug 24, 2013 17:57:44 GMT -5
I have a really bad feeling about this event and what its going to represent for the Arm Wrestling community.
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Post by John Wilson on Aug 24, 2013 20:44:52 GMT -5
I'll show up for a case of 5.56mm
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Aug 25, 2013 6:11:36 GMT -5
Bobby - to clarify - I never asked for the money to be given to me. I asked that the money be brought into the athlete's meeting at 9am Friday morning to be counted in front of the athletes as a show of good faith that the money was there. That request was not granted nor was a contract signed verifying that $10,000 was guaranteed to be paid to the armwrestling athletes. You cannot state that the money is definitely there and be accurate. You have nothing in writing stating anything is definite. I know that you and Danial were asked by Craig Soubliere to come to Daytona so some photographs could be taken of you guys on a table to replace the photo of Bill Collins that is still on the Daytona Challenge website. Even though Bill was no longer a part of the event, the organizer was still using his photo. And, to date, the photo is still on there and has not been changed. I also know that for your time and trouble, you and Daniel were given some guns and ammunition from the gun store owner that is giving away a free handgun to the lady that wins the bikini armwrestling. And, they're also paying for your hotel rooms for the weekend of the event. All wishing and hoping aside Bobby, business is business. You cannot promise armwrestlers $1 or $1,000,000 worth of prize money without guaranteeing it and if anyone has a problem putting their name on the dotted line to do so, something is definitely not right. Isn't this supposed to about sport, fitness competition? And the winner oF the bikini contest gets a free gun? Are u F ING $hitting me? LMAO.... |
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Aug 25, 2013 6:16:45 GMT -5
guy i speak with the promoter everday the money is there the sponcers are huge and theres over 16 of them i have met with some of the sponcers in person and they are all very suportive of this event and it is goin to be huge and the monet is def there and both the promoters are new to arm wrestling but they have done nothing but prove to me that they have money ans sponcers to to back them up .........i understand as a competitor the travals that its hard cause there are alot of promoters out there that are not doing what they say but i can speak for these guy and i will keep backing them and this tornament 100% if i had come up with 10,000 to give for prize money i would want to be the guy handing out the money Bobby, the BlackBear Events were at venues a dear, dear friend owned. I ended up promoting the last few with Pete Milano, as James Reterides moved to NC..We never Had an issue with money,EVER. Remember, he was a dear dear friend.3 days before our last meet at the BlackBear in SoNo, Ct, he backed out of most of the $...NEVER TRUST ANYONE WHEN IT COMES TO $, UNLESS ITS IN WRITING...NO MATTER WHO IT IS. |
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Post by John Milne on Aug 25, 2013 9:10:40 GMT -5
Off topic but Christian, I wanted to say that I loved those events you boys put on.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Aug 25, 2013 9:51:21 GMT -5
Off topic but Christian, I wanted to say that I loved those events you boys put on. Thank u |
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Post by Craig Soubliere on Aug 30, 2013 7:03:46 GMT -5
1st It was Bill then it was Triple A then Jesse and now Danial is putting on the Arm Wrestling at the Daytona Challenge. There was Cash now there are just prizes for awards... I been told a few sponsors have backed out and Hunter well his really Name is Curtis Mann business partner Hyleas Fountain has dropped off the event also. The Web site still is advertising that they are awarding cash prizes which is false so all that being said you all can put 2 and 2 together and see that this event is not something that's going to help Arm Wrestling.....
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Post by Danial Worely on Sept 1, 2013 10:18:30 GMT -5
well mr miller got all flight confirmation for both him and his wife so the table will be there so come win it and lets all have a good time
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