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Post by Joe Dimino on Jul 9, 2014 9:01:06 GMT -5
So we just forget about Dennis? Right handed he is still the man. Until proven otherwise. Or as always on this board are we only talking about NA Pullers? I just think its weird that you would create a post asking who the number 1 right handed puller is and not even MENTION the guy who has been arguably the best for a few years now.... Its like we refuse to acknowledge the Europeans. IMO. Taking NOTHING away from us NA Pullers, i just think its odd that we always refuse to discuss the Europeans on this board. M. Todd and Dave Chaffee are closing in on Cyplenkov in my opinion. Dennis has been owned by John B, this tells me he has a problem with technicians which means he would have big problems with Devon. This stops him from being number 1 in my opinion.
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Post by Evan Keller on Jul 9, 2014 9:08:39 GMT -5
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Post by Floyd Colley on Jul 9, 2014 11:24:51 GMT -5
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Post by Evan Keller on Jul 9, 2014 18:31:58 GMT -5
Lol. The video I put up was from a couple days ago. I wasn't putting it on here to say Denis sucks or anything, just that his most recent loss was to someone who I believe the top north American guys can take.
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Post by Derek Costa on Jul 9, 2014 18:37:29 GMT -5
Lol. The video I put up was from a couple days ago. I wasn't putting it on here to say Denis sucks or anything, just that his most recent loss was to someone who I believe the top north American guys can take. That video is from 2012. His most recent loss was to Dave.
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Post by Kyle Darby on Jul 9, 2014 19:08:41 GMT -5
All of the elite are number one is the correct answer.
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Post by Joe Dimino on Jul 9, 2014 19:44:43 GMT -5
All of the elite are number one is the correct answer. Just because we hold hands in arm wrestling doesn't mean we have to sing kumbaya...
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Post by Kyle Darby on Jul 9, 2014 21:00:03 GMT -5
Joe to discover the meaning of my statement you must scratch past the surface and dig a little deeper. Quite frankly the answer to this question is purely subjective contingent on what criteria a person chooses to measure their candidate. For example Andrey Pushkar would be a realistic canditate based on merit. He is a multiple time WAF world champion who continously honors the process and wins arguably the most prestigious title in that of WAF worlds. The argument of who he did or didn't beat is mute because everyone has the same oppurtunity. One might make a compelling argument for Devon Larratt as the number one super match puller ever based on victories, succesful defenses, and quality of wins. IMO a good argument could be made for Bresnan and Cadorette being two of the most well rounded based on success in super matches and tournaments combined. I don't believe an accurate argument can be made for Denis being the best. I say this because people continuously lay down for him producing generic results. There is a small handful of guys that have beat him. He doesn't travel much and quite frankly is some what evasive. Many other great champions have traveled to foriegn lands and welcomed all challenges. Dave Chaffee is quite possibly the strongest arm wrestler on the planet. There are so many variables based on styles I don't believe any one elite beats the rest across the board. Who beat who is irrelevant because it doesn't translate to A beats B so he beats C & D. Honestly based on skill, longevity, quality of wins, titles, and accomplishments John Brzenk is undoubtedly the king.
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Post by Joe Dimino on Jul 9, 2014 21:46:01 GMT -5
Joe to discover the meaning of my statement you must scratch past the surface and dig a little deeper. Quite frankly the answer to this question is purely subjective contingent on what criteria a person chooses to measure their candidate. For example Andrey Pushkar would be a realistic canditate based on merit. He is a multiple time WAF world champion who continously honors the process and wins arguably the most prestigious title in that of WAF worlds. The argument of who he did or didn't beat is mute because everyone has the same oppurtunity. One might make a compelling argument for Devon Larratt as the number one super match puller ever based on victories, succesful defenses, and quality of wins. IMO a good argument could be made for Bresnan and Cadorette being two of the most well rounded based on success in super matches and tournaments combined. I don't believe an accurate argument can be made for Denis being the best. I say this because people continuously lay down for him producing generic results. There is a small handful of guys that have beat him. He doesn't travel much and quite frankly is some what evasive. Many other great champions have traveled to foriegn lands and welcomed all challenges. Dave Chaffee is quite possibly the strongest arm wrestler on the planet. There are so many variables based on styles I don't believe any one elite beats the rest across the board. Who beat who is irrelevant because it doesn't translate to A beats B so he beats C & D. Honestly based on skill, longevity, quality of wins, titles, and accomplishments John Brzenk is undoubtedly the king. Agreed, except for the Pushkar part. I think he's been 2nd best each hand quite a bit but never best. My original point was that you can't be number one if there's someone that dominates you. A loss here and there is fine, but Brzenk has flat out dominated Dennis.
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Post by Derek Smith on Jul 9, 2014 22:38:43 GMT -5
Brzenk dominated Cyplenkov when Dennis was new. Before John stopped competing at Nemiroff Dennis beat him. Also before Arsen was suspended I'm not really sure who could beat him besides Dennis....
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Post by Kyle Darby on Jul 9, 2014 23:46:03 GMT -5
Arsen? The Arsen that got sanctioned for illegal performance enhancing drugs? We'll see how dominant he is without gear if that ever happens. Oh and to answer your question his name is DAVE CHAFFEE that's who.
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Post by Derek Costa on Jul 10, 2014 0:49:58 GMT -5
Brzenk dominated Cyplenkov when Dennis was new. Before John stopped competing at Nemiroff Dennis beat him. Also before Arsen was suspended I'm not really sure who could beat him besides Dennis.... Pushkar dominated Arsen.
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Post by Joe Dimino on Jul 10, 2014 6:11:36 GMT -5
Brzenk dominated Cyplenkov when Dennis was new. Before John stopped competing at Nemiroff Dennis beat him. Also before Arsen was suspended I'm not really sure who could beat him besides Dennis.... Not exactly, John beat Dennis at nemiroff in 2009. He also beat him 5:1 in a super match that year. Dennis wasn't a new guy, he won Nemiroff left handed that year and both hands the next year (without John), not really a new guy resume. Maybe he's gotten even better since then but I don't think so, he was smashing everyone back then too, except John. I see John and Devon as very similar pullers so I think he would have problems with Devon too.
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Post by Derek Smith on Jul 10, 2014 18:05:15 GMT -5
Brzenk dominated Cyplenkov when Dennis was new. Before John stopped competing at Nemiroff Dennis beat him. Also before Arsen was suspended I'm not really sure who could beat him besides Dennis.... Pushkar dominated Arsen. Ya there's always Pushkar. Arsen does have wins on him as well though. Pushkar has more for sure though. Any right handed argument with Devon is a fantasy match right now, same as arguin "Cleve Dean could beat Dennis". How many Nemiroffs had Dennis pulled in when John beat him last?
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Post by Joe Dimino on Jul 10, 2014 18:51:13 GMT -5
It was his third when John beat him there. They should be meeting up here in a couple weeks at the A1. I hope they stream that again this year.
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