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Post by Jerry Herron on Nov 30, 2014 19:09:55 GMT -5
Why do people pay out $500 for overall but $75 for 1st ? Is this not stupid I would think the bigger the pay out in individual class the more entries you would get. Because if the overall prize is big then most likely u know who will win it . And its not fair to the smaller guys unless u are a top ten guy I have been to a lot of tournaments and never seen a small guy win it . Just lookin for thoughs
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Post by John Milne on Nov 30, 2014 19:13:22 GMT -5
IMO it's because hardly anyone comes to a tournament to see smaller guys (unless they are a small guy). The big guns is where the attention is and the money is what draws them in.
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Post by Jerry Herron on Nov 30, 2014 19:39:25 GMT -5
So pay 500 to see two guys ? Mmmmm
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Post by John Milne on Dec 1, 2014 6:20:17 GMT -5
Hey, I was just stating the obvious.
If you ask most competitors if they'd rather see one of the top 154 guys or say Richard Lupkes at their tournament, you know what the answer would be.
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Post by Alan Berget on Dec 1, 2014 6:35:46 GMT -5
It sucks but it's true.
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Post by Mike Cocchi on Dec 1, 2014 10:09:53 GMT -5
Yeah this is true ...
Bigger is better.
Even for a small guy I can admit that.
But does not bother me, ima fan too, so I love watching big guys go at it.
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Post by Bill Cox on Dec 1, 2014 11:39:12 GMT -5
If you only have $500 to give away just put it in a cash box, each entry get one ticket then 1st place gets 3 tix 2nd gets 2 tix and 3rd get one. Throw all tickets in a bag and have the owner of the place holding the event or a kid from the crowd to pick a number. The person that has that tix gets the $500. Fair to everyone and may even add some entries when they know one tix can win the money.
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Post by J.C. Pienta on Dec 1, 2014 13:20:15 GMT -5
To build on Bill's suggestion, which seems like a great idea, what about anyone that's never won a match being entered in a drawing for a chance to win back their entry fee? Maybe that would increase entries, keep more people there until the end, and also hopefully reduce the chances that a newcomer gets discouraged and never comes back.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Dec 1, 2014 14:28:50 GMT -5
Tim B again ok let's just give everyone a trophy that way no ones feelings get hurt! No one will strive to be the best avarage is ok
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Post by Louis Caleca on Dec 1, 2014 14:56:03 GMT -5
One guy getting his Entry fee back = A participation trophy for everyone?? I don't see that connection. I think JC's idea was aimed at keeping new people at the tournament longer. The longer they're there, the greater the chance that they get hooked on the sport. I don't know if his idea is a good one, but i don't see where it celebrates mediocrity either.
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Post by Anthony Lowe on Dec 1, 2014 14:58:40 GMT -5
Prize box tournaments keep the big name guys from flying out to the smaller tournaments. Some may like that but my overall goal isn't to win small tournaments even though I'm probably far from that.
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Post by Mike Cocchi on Dec 1, 2014 17:49:22 GMT -5
Tim B again ok let's just give everyone a trophy that way no ones feelings get hurt! No one will strive to be the best avarage is ok Like in T ball for children... Lol |
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Post by Pete & Tim on Dec 1, 2014 19:43:01 GMT -5
Tim B again I was being sarcastic and if you don't see how it conects read it again!This is a power sport if you can't deal withloseing GET STRONGER!!!! Giveing a award for not placeing is crazy, unless we are playing Tball! I like the guy who wants to see big names show up gives you target for GETTING STRONGER!!!! I've seen grown men drop out of turney when I or other big names show that's what we should have T BaLl trophey for the chicken shot award!!!!
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Post by John Milne on Dec 1, 2014 20:46:46 GMT -5
Tim Bresnan fan here
Hell I'm even a Pete Milano fan just for letting Timmy post
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Post by John Milne on Dec 1, 2014 21:04:39 GMT -5
I do not agree that everyone who competes should get a shot at the $500 (or whatever prize)
It is not a right, it should be earned. Wins and championships in this sport are earned by time on the table, time in the gym, etc etc etc. I would not like to see someone walk into their first event and walk off with the cash if he (or she) went 0-2. I would probably feel robbed (more like the athletes got robbed).
I've seen people win $1000 and never compete again. Just took the money and ran. I've also seen other "fair play" bul1crap that made me sick. NOT EVERYONE DESERVES TO WIN PRIZES.
I know this is getting slightly off topic from the original post so back to that. I'll pose a question to you. Why don't you host a big money tournament for light weight guys? There is nothing stopping someone from doing this. That is one of the many cool things about this sport, almost anyone can host a tournament, make their own rules, make their own weight classes. All they'd have to do is get people to show up.
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