WW3/Armwrestling

[Ryan Thames]

I defenitly see it having an impact on international armwrestling. But how will it effect local armwrestling.

especially in the US....or "great Satan"?

[Mark Evans]

Ryan, "If" World War III takes place I think armwrestling will be the last thing we should be concerned with.
See pray for peace thread.

[Ryan Thames]

the question wasnt, should it be a concern. The question was will it or will it not effect armwrestling.

FYI its a lil more close to WW3 than "if"

It could be worded Next month during world war 3 how will it effect armwrestling

[Mark Evans]

Thanks Ryan for the correction. Like I said, if World War III does take place, armwrestling is the last thing we should be concerned about. Why? Because it will effect every thing and everyone, possibly for good. READ YOUR SCRIPTURES.
Please note I didn't vote.

[Ryan Thames]

oh, ok.

Yea i defenitly agree.

[Steve Kirlew]

I thought this was a WWE thread! Lol ;D I voted yes. It would have an effect on local and international armwrestling but i don't think it will be as a direct result from what is going on right now in Israel and Lebenon...maybe i'm wrong though

steven said:

World War III will be Jerry Cadorette v John Brzenk.

Haha ;D

[Shane Vasquez]

steven said:

World War III will be Jerry Cadorette v John Brzenk.

How long u think that war will last? under an hour!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D

[JD Slough]

I agree with Mark, if it happens everything will be affected. Some international businesses have already began seeing the affects. Anytime there is an economic hit like a WW causes then everything is affected. In Armwrestling's favor historically gambling and entertainment venues have prospered during times of slight recession. Obviously if its a huge recession result then we all know what would happen, but if its small then history shows people turn to gambling and entertainment to "get away" from the transgressions cuased by the war. Hopefully it defuses soon and all this hypothesizing is nothing more than a one day forgotten conversation.

[Brent Norris]

There wont' be true peace on earth untill the Prince of Peace comes back. Don't fall for the great deception.

[Ryan Thames]

Very true my friend, very true.

[enginterzi]

that is what i was saying on the off topic forum.Judgement day will clear the things no matter what we all say about ourselves.we too believe that Jesus will come back at the end of the world and his coming will be a sign of the end.the only true happiness will be in heaven because the GOD almighty will have the full control.but the end of the world will not mean happiness for all,it will mean a forever pain for some.

as Mark wrote,"If" World War III takes place I think armwrestling will be the last thing we should be concerned with.

Ryan,

i do not know what you meant by saying with "great satan" (it is better to spell satan with small letters for i show no respect to him).please tell me what you meant and then i will tell you what i think about it.

[enginterzi]

"When you read the history of Israel from objective sources, you discover that it is an outlaw state, created by the powers that be by stealing the land from its original inhabitants, and systematically exterminating them ever since." —John Kaminski

"We killed them out of a certain naive hubris. Believing with absolute certitude that now, with the White House, the Senate, and much of the American media in our hands, the lives of others do not count as much as our own..." —Ari Shavat. Reproduced in the New York Times, May 27th, 1999

"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." —Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994

"I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it." —Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

One Truth and Not Two
by Uri Zvi Greenberg
(interpreted from Hebrew by Laurence Cramer)
Your Rabbis taught: A land is bought with money
You buy the land and work it with a hoe.
And I say: A land is not bought with money
And with a hoe you also dig and bury the dead.
And I say: A land is conquered with blood.
And only when conquered with blood is hallowed to the people
With the holiness of the blood.

it is all about to fulfill the so-called promis of GOD to Abraham.by fulfilling this promise Jews believe that Messiah will come to establish the kingdom of Jews.here is the map; www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/greater-israel-map4.jpg


DEUTERoNOMY 2-34 "At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed them—men, women and children. We left no survivors".

NUMBERS 31-17,18 "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

[enginterzi]

Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran commands us to return the evil that is done to us by others to not only with good, but with best!.

Let us look at Noble Verse 13:22 "Those who patiently persevere, seeking the countenance of their Lord; establish regular prayers; spend out of (the gifts) We have bestowed for their sustenance, secretly and openly; and turn off evil with good: for such there is the final attainment of the (Eternal) Home."

Let us look at Noble Verse 23:96 "Repel evil with that which is best: We are Well-acquainted with the things they say."

Let us look at Noble Verse 41:34 "Nor can goodness and evil be equal. Repel (evil) with that is better: Then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!."

Let us look at Noble Verse 28:54 "Twice will they be given their reward, for that they have persevered, that they avert evil with good, and that they spend (in charity) out of what We have given them."

Let us look at Noble Verse 42:40 "The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah: for (Allah) Loveth not those who do wrong."

Allah Almighty loves those who restrain anger: "Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity, or in adversity; who restrain anger, and pardon (all) men; for Allah loves those who do good. (The Noble Quran, 3:134)"

Noble Verse 5:32 "...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people..."


IN THE WARS

The Messenger of Allah, when dispatching his troops, would tell them, " ..Do not behave treacherously, nor misappropriate war-booty, nor mutilate [those whom you kill], nor kill children, nor the people in cloisters."


The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Go in Allah's name, trusting in Allah, and adhering to the religion of Allah's Apostle. Do not kill a decrepit old man, o a young infant, or a child, or a woman; do not be dishonest about booty, but collect your spoils, do right and act well, for Allah loves those who do well.

[enginterzi]

from www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_isnot_zionism.cfm

Judaism And Zionism Are Not The Same Thing
We would like to take a few minutes of your time to prevent you from making a terrible mistake that may have disastrous results for many.

You have always without a doubt heard and read much about the political crises in the Middle East in which the State of Israel plays a central role. This is, in fact, an ongoing series of crises with potential to bring the greatest misfortune on the entire world. Tragically many believe that Zionism and Judaism are identical. Thus they conclude that the entire Jewish people is responsible for the actions of the Zionist government and the world crises which emanates from it. This is a Grave Error!

The truth is that the Jewish faith and Zionism are two very different philosophies. They are as opposite as day and night. The Jewish people have existed for thousands of years. In their two thousand years of Divinely decreed exile no Jew ever sought to end this exile and establish independent political sovereignty anywhere. The people's sole purpose was the study and fulfillment of the Divine commandments of the Torah.

The Zionist movement created the Israeli state. The latter is a persuasion less than one hundred years old. Its essential goal was and is to change the nature of the Jewish people from that of a religious entity to a political movement. From Zionism's inception the spiritual leaders of the Jewish people stood in staunch opposition to it.

To this day Torah Jewry remains forever loyal to its faith. Zionists want the world to believe that they are the representatives of the entire Jewish people. This is false! The Jewish people never chose them as their leaders.

The Zionists have deceived many well meaning Jewish people via terror, trickery and false propaganda. They have at their disposal the use of a nearly universally subservient media. Whoever attempts to criticize them puts his livelihood and, at times, his very life in danger.

However, despite the media blackout and easy resort to terror the simple truth remains unrefuted and irrefutable: ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH FAITH AND TORAH LAW THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FORBIDDEN TO HAVE THEIR OWN STATE WHILE AWAITING THE MESSIANIC ERA!

The Creator gave us the Holy Land thousands of years ago. Yet, when we sinned, He took it away and sent us into exile. Since that time our task is to wait for Him to send the Messiah. At that time, the Creator alone, without any human being lifting a hand or saying a word, will bring us together and take us out of exile. He will likewise establish universal peace among all mankind and all will serve Him in good will.

Some religious Jews, confused by Zionist propaganda quote Biblical verses that state that G-d gave the children of Israel the Holy Land. They overlook, unfortunately, those verses which say that He took it away due to our sins. They further ignore those prophecies which explicitly describe the last exile's conclusion as a Divine, not a human process.

The Creator has commanded every Jew to follow the ways of peace and to be loyal to the country where he lives.

Torah true Jewry waits patiently for the Messianic redemption. They have nothing to do with any kind of pseudo "Jewish State" and its aggressions against other peoples. They have a deep sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians who have suffered the most from Zionism's false teachings and barbaric actions. The Zionist state is not a Jewish state. The Zionists alone are the only ones responsible for their actions. Authentic Jewry has and will continue to oppose the very existence of this blasphemous state.

May all mankind witness the true redemption.

[BigDaddyJoe™]

see, you had to go and get engin started......JERK RYAN!