Old Testament Prophesy of the name of the Messiah

[Ryan Thames]

This thought just hit me the other day so i figured id share it with you guys.

There are no exact prophecies of the name of Christ in the old testament. I mean the name "JESUS" There are plenty other things we would call him but not his actual name when he is born on the earth.

Or is there?
One man tried to point out an inconsistency of the bible a while back.
He said "how did Moses write the 5 books if he died before the last one was finished?".

Well, scholars believe that Joshua finished writing the books. Joshua was Moses’ right hand man and took over after Moses passing. The book of “Joshua is the 6th book in the bible after the Pentateuch (5 books of law). It is safe to assume that Joshua did finish writing it.
You would definitely not be in error if you assume that, because it makes perfect sense and backs up scripture 100%. (Matt 5:17 17. Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill) Moses was the giver of the law and Joshua finished writing it. The Law was Given and Jesus fulfilled it.
Most people would say that Jesus name is not mentioned in the old testament. But I beg to differ. Joshua’s name was no accident.

The Name: Hosea into Joshua:- The original name of Joshua was Hosea ("saves"), and Moses changed it into Joshua ("God's salvation"), and it was significant of the services he was to render, and typified those of a greater Savior, Jesus (Heb.1:8, Num.13:8).
- Jesus did the same with Peter, from Simon (soft), into Peter (rock), And I tell you that you are Peter (Rock), and on this rock I will build my church, (Mat.16:16).
The Names Joshua and Jesus:
- Joshua and Jesus are really the same name. Both from the Hebrew Yehoshua or Yeshua, in Greek Joshua, in English Jesus, which means, "he will save". Joshua will provide a temporal salvation and Jesus an eternal one,
- The New Testament says that Mary would bring forth a son "and call his name Jesus, for he shall save his people from their sins." (Matthew 1:21).
Joshua and Jesus Roles: Leaders of Israel:- Joshua: "Because of you the Lord became angry with me also and said, "You shall not enter it, either. But your assistant, Joshua son of Nun, will enter it. Encourage him, because he will lead Israel to inherit it." (Deut. 1:37-38).
- Jesus: "'But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will be the shepherd of my people Israel.'" (Matt. 2:6)
Appointed by God:
Joshua was appointed by God, his mission was not inherited... Jesus was appointed by God, his mission was not inherited.

[enginterzi]

he was the right hand of Moses but he didnt know where Moses's grave was as he wrote at the end of Torah??

[Ryan Thames]

Deuteronomy 34:
4. And the Lord said unto him, This is the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, saying, I will give it unto thy seed: I have caused thee to see it with thine eyes, but thou shalt not go over thither.
5. So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord.
6. And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.
7. And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.
8. And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.
9. And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as the Lord commanded Moses.
10. And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face,
11. In all the signs and the wonders, which the Lord sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land,
12. And in all that mighty hand, and in all the great terror which Moses shewed in the sight of all Israel.

Either the lord himself buried him or Joshua buried him. It was obviously an unmarked grave. likely for the saftey of the grave site.

My guess would be the lord himself buried him unless you can explain who the "He" is in verse 6

[enginterzi]

guessing and adding ideas...

[Ryan Thames]

uhhhh no

What am i supposed to say?

I can only tell you what the word says...

You have taken the point off subject

My point i was making was that The name "Jesus" .......I believe was prophesied in the name Joshua. As the new testament states

Matthew 5:17. Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

He said "i have not come to do away with the law but to fulfill it". I thought it was an interesting fact the Joshua Whose name is the same as Jesus Finished writing the law of Moses.

That lines up so perfectly with that scripture that it could be considered prophetic. Prophesying the name of the one who would fulfill the law.

[enginterzi]

ok Ryan..

[Pete & Tim]

Play nice children.

[Matl'e McDaniel]

Yeah Ryan, myfather and I were talking about this subject not to long ago. See my father named my brother Yeshua, but called him joshua to help people pronounce. We came up with the conclusion of that any "dead" language such as hebrew/arabic has as much if not more pronouncements or inflections to each word. It is very hard to exactly say what name is right. As I said these come from dead tounge so its hard to say. And by dead I mean very old and passed down for so long. I can say though that you always keep me interested with these great topics. I can hardly wait until we can meet someday and share our two passions. Appearently only one of them is liked on this board:)

[Jeremy Plaster]

Engin, I am proud of you!

[enginterzi]

i keep my promise and expect other ppl to keep their promises too.when you dont mentioned the name but write "someone" and add what he did, to point who he is,then you are bringing the subjects back here by breaking your promise.im proud that you are proud of me Jay.

[Austin Slater]

Mat'le

Good to see you on the board! Check your email! These threads keep me interested as well. I havent looked into this particular issue but like Mat'le said Hebrew is a much more complex language then most modern languages we see today. But there are other places that show the Name of Jesus in the ot. The "I AM" statements in the ot and nt for example. The Deity of Christ is an awesome study and easily provable.

Another hebrew word that might be referring to the trinity is Elohim found in genesis ch1. It is a plural form of a singular God. This only makes sense in the Christian view of the trinity. This is speculative but interesting nonetheless and there are much more obvious verses pointing to Jesus in the OT. Sorry for rambling!

Austin

[Ryan Thames]

Engin,

I did not break any promise i made to you in this post. I didnt not bring up Islam and attempt to slash it up. I simply brought up a thought that the lord stirred up in me and it happen to relate to a previous conversation.

It was nothing directed to you or about you or your religion. If you took it that way then i dont know what to say to you but im sorry your wrong.

[Ryan Thames]

Austin your very correct there are many many prophecies that prove Christ is the messiah. But my point was that none specifically same the name Jesus. And i just figured id elaborate on that thought a lil. i found it interesting to share.

Now lets take alook at Genesis.

This is a biblical proof of the trinity. Clear as day .....if you believe in the bible.

Genesis 1:26. And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27. So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

In verse 26 it uses the plural words "our" and "us". This indicates that there are more than one party involved. We know that God didnt create man in the image of angels so he had to have been talking to himself, as it states in verse 27 "He", "His".

This is a clear indicator the God is three persons in one.

Not three Gods But three persons in one God

[Mark Evans]

Great information Ryan. Thank you and God Bless.