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Post by Kurt Howgate on Feb 6, 2006 13:02:13 GMT -5
Kurt funny you mention that. Colin Cowherd a pittsburg fan and radio host on espn said if your a pittsburg fan and cant admitt the officiating was horrible and played a huge role in this game. How about the hasslebeck 15 yeard penalty to set up the trick play on a tackle? wtf? Eric Allen 3-time superbowl champ said seattle won the battle in almost every aspect of the game and got screwed by the ref's. Cowherd also said it best when he said anyone who says otherwise is a 35 year old wearing pittsburg pajamas to bed and is lying to themselves. Like I said congrats to Cower, Bettis, ward etc who I hugely respect but you hate to see a superbowl game decided by the officiating when these guys work that hard to get there. That game was a joke and they took away a possible great finish and any chance seattle had to win. Think of this: they won the turn over battle, total yardage, time of possesion, hasslebeck outplayed Ben, and they won the physical battle and lost by 11? Show me another game in the last 10 years where that happened. You cant. Austin I also listen to ESPN radio. Yes, the holding call and the block-below-the-waist by Hasselbeck were very questionable. But I stand my ground about the offensive-pass-interference call in the end-zone against Seattle, and the Big Ben TD call. Those were accurate, IMO.
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Post by Chris Ratchford on Feb 6, 2006 14:04:01 GMT -5
G o steelers!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Austin Slater on Feb 6, 2006 14:34:57 GMT -5
Kurt im with you on pitt making big plays when they had to. But those calls played a huge roll in the outcome of the game. Ive heard eric allen, steve young, madden, patrick, cowherd, irvin all saying the call shouldnt of been called. But like I said, Pittsburg deserves credit for making big plays when they were given the oppurtunity. . .
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Post by BigDaddyJoe™ on Feb 6, 2006 14:43:22 GMT -5
I am so happy that the steelers won, because they are an awesom team and i've always like the bus, and i feel bad that my boys beat 'em in '96.
BUT
BUT
there were a lot of horrible calls on both sides of the field....more against the seahawks but whatever.....it's in the books!!!!
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Post by Scott Latella on Feb 6, 2006 15:33:31 GMT -5
I don't believe the Bus was on that team in 96,
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Post by leonard on Feb 7, 2006 1:30:01 GMT -5
Bad calls are the norm for all sports and I am an football official also in the state of Montana. With that being said.....Pittsburg did not get one questionable call against them and Seattle had 4 big ones called against them. The touchdown call should have been reversed before the replay. That official was marking the spot short and looked up and saw the ball across the line. Of course that was after it had touched the ground and was moved forward. Blown call. The offensive interference was a call that should have not been made. The so called push off did not stop the defender nor change his direction. That is classic incidental contact that happens all the time. Again blown call. The holding call.....well they must have seen something other that what we saw because there was not holding there. The penalty on Hasslebeck was a very bad call and that set up the trick play. None of this is Pittsburgh's fault but this so called all-star officials system is bogus. These officials work in crews all year long and they should let the best crews do the top games and not this current "all-star" set of officials. Officiating football is about being in the right place at the right time and coordinating what you are doing with your fellow officials and put together crews do not work well together.
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Post by jamesretarides on Feb 7, 2006 8:04:25 GMT -5
I'll tell you what, I picked Seattle and yes there were some calls that were questionable, but the bottomline is that their offense was flat all night and they didn't deserve to win that game.
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Post by BigDaddyJoe™ on Feb 7, 2006 8:06:59 GMT -5
agreed
steelers were the better team
i won the bet i made anyways
ref's by 14
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Post by Austin Slater on Feb 7, 2006 11:46:39 GMT -5
The better team did not win on sunday.
Explain how you can lose the turnover battle, total yards, time of possesion, physical battle, qb play and still win by 11. Seattle won every aspect of the game and still lost by double digits. First time in superbowl history its happened. Hell even 50% of the fans in pittsburg agree with the game being given to them and thats saying someting. Bill Parcells agreed yesterday as well in an interview. Seattle needs to start getting respect as a great team.
Ive said this before but Seattle could of won regardless of the calls if they made some plays instead of Stevens dropping the ball and a couple of others. . . .
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by jamesretarides on Feb 7, 2006 12:02:37 GMT -5
Austin, I used to cry when the Bears lost in the early rounds of the playoffs and even when the Cubs lost to the Padres in 84 and then to the Giants when Will Clark hit like .800 for the series. Mark Grace was the only one to play worth a damn in that series. Then the Bulls won 6 championships (it didn't change my life), a fan interfered with Moises Alou catching a pop fly (life went on) and it dawned on me: These guys 99% of these guys could give a crap what we think. The Seahawks I am sure feel bad about themselves right now, but in a few weeks they'll go back to banging hot chicks and driving $250,000 automobiles to the finest restaurants in the Yakima Valley or anywhere else to their heart's content. Rooting interests are like a hobby, I just can't bring myself to root for teams that will have different faces in two years as their players find bigger and more satisfying contracts elsewhere. Just like Sonny said in "A Bronx Tale." Mickey Mantle doesn't give a "F" about you.
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Post by Kurt Howgate on Feb 7, 2006 12:10:07 GMT -5
Bad calls happen. Look at the Pittsburgh/Indy game. I would say the Hasselbeck block and the holding call were wrong. The Ben R. TD call was a judgement call (it looked to me liked the tip of the ball crossed). But the interference call in the end-zone against Seattle was correct, according to the NFL rule book. Remember the no-contact after 5-yard rule? The Seattle receiver CLEARLY extended his arm, pushed the defender back (you can see that clearly on film), and at the same time gained separation so he could catch the ball. This was not incidental contact. Leonard, how can you say that it was incidental when the Pittsburgh defender was forced backwards half-a-step and the receiver goes the other way to catch the ball?
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Post by TK on Feb 7, 2006 12:22:38 GMT -5
SEAHAWK CRYBABYS, listen....did the refs make the field goal kicker miss his goals.?..i think not.... did the refs make Alexander a non-factor for the hawks.?...i think not... did the refs make Hassyback throw a big interception at the end of the game in a crucial moment?... again i think not... we whipped their ass by 11 pts...we'll give you your missed fg and your crybaby pass interference call...thats 10 pts....we still kick your ass.... another question... did the refs make your defense chase Randle El on a reverse...to then see Randle El launch a beautiful pass to MVP Hines Ward?? i think not.... and another note...The Steelers overcame adversity and bad calls in their games and still won over the colts.... its like this...blame the refs when you get your ass kicked.... another question? did the refs make the Seahawks safetys miss the tackle on Fast Willie Parker as he darted for 75 yds? where were the refs when Big Ben Scrambled..then launched a pass to MVP Hines Ward..at the hawks goal line....damn refs!!! i told ya'll the hawks were weak... ....... only one good quarter for them then we'd dominate..... did the refs blow a fumble for Pitt? Stephens tight end catches the pass ...turns around with clear possesion..takes two steps...Hope knocked the doo-doo out of him..he fumbles the ball.....the refs blow the whistle...play dead...didn't even give us a chance to review....clear fumble. the pass interference call was 100% dead on..he pushed off and got caught....deal with it.... Ben did cross that line by the way..the ref saw it with his own two eyes....they even reviewed it...not eneough to over turn.....where would you have spotted the ball?? on the one centimeter yd line?? The Steelers were the better team...lets get it out in the open......Face it fellows...we would have beaten you with those calls going your way....it was fate from the football gods!!! "we are the champions my friends" TK ps. if you feel like debating me on this..i have at least ten more questions the Hawks would need answers to. proud Steeler fan!!!!!!
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Post by TK on Feb 7, 2006 12:26:33 GMT -5
Sore losers make for Great winners... TK
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Post by Austin Slater on Feb 7, 2006 12:59:16 GMT -5
Todd are you joking? How about you respond to my last post on they lost every aspect of the game and won by 11? Its called horrible officiating. Every nfl analyst disagrees with you but somehow your right? Take off your pittsburg pajamas with the footies on them and atleast be honest, the refs played a huge roll in that game.
Go ahead and post your 10 questions but while your at it answer just one for me:
How can you say Pitssburg was better then Seattle when:
1.they lost the turnover battle 2. lost time of possesion 3. lost total yardage battle 4. qb was horrible and outplayed by the othe qb 5. Ben admitted last night he didnt get in 6. EVERY nfl expert says it was rediculous 7. got beat in the phsyical game
Like I said EVERY expert I have heard said it was a horrible called game that affected the outcome of the game.
Actually I forgot a couple of others points for your first set of questions. You said it was a pass interference call and to deal with it. Every current or retired defensive back has said that it wasnt pass interference. Do I take your word for it or thiers? Seems like an easy choice to me.
Next you talked about the fumble call on Stevens. First of all it bounced about 20 yards down field in favor of seattle and who knows who would of gotten the ball. Even if you did get it, it didnt take any points off the board like the calls against seattle did. Tell me your kidding, please?
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Post by Kurt Howgate on Feb 7, 2006 13:26:31 GMT -5
Every current or retired defensive back has said that it wasnt pass interference. Do I take your word for it or thiers? Seems like an easy choice to me. What about Dan Patrick's word about the pass interference call. He just reiterated everything I just said on my above post, regarding that call.
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