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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 6, 2006 5:54:59 GMT -5
We have a pshycotic againg man who wants nothing more than nuclear war before he dies.....what do you do?
can you imagine the fear that engulfs japan with threats of long range nuclear bombs?
I think we as a nation, along with the other countries of the UN......really with or without the UN, should totally nutrealize any and all military capability, quick and fast.
Then string up, kim il, and his brother mentalyy-ill
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Post by gambit on Jul 7, 2006 16:19:10 GMT -5
I am sure people who have ridiculed Bush about Iraq are having a field-day with this one.
We (the government) don't know the meaning of "attack". "We" is so wimped out with our own people holding them back from what needs to be done - done to finish what they started. If we wait for them to attack, it may very well be too damn late then.
Impose economic sanctions on them and they'll most likely get pissed instead of coming to the realization that they are not as self-sufficient as they think.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Jul 7, 2006 17:16:08 GMT -5
First off, their LONG RANGE missle lasted 35 seconds in flight....Same as it did in 1999. So, for now, I don't think their LONG RANGE missle will be hitting us any time soon.
Second: U.N. Sanctions haven't been working at all ( BOY WHAT A SHOCKER). Russia and China oppose sanctions and want a more diplomatic approach. For now.. BTW: The U.S. was, during Clintons years in office, ( I don't know if we still are) the larger grain supplier to North Korea in the World...Kim Jong Il feed his Army with it while 2 million of his people died. While Clinton was doing that he also sold the technology to enrich uranium( one step closer to having nuclear power) to North Korea for contributions to the DNC.
Maybe we should worry more about China, since they own about a trillion dollars of our Countries dept..Also, Clinton sold the Chinese the technology ( through Loral Electonics, my Sister worked for them and I know the Presidents son) for their LONG RANGE missles to reach our shores, AGAIN for contributions to the DNC.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 7, 2006 23:09:52 GMT -5
I agree with Allen. If we wait, it may be too late. if they impose sanctions they will attack.
I dont think the missile exploding after 30 seconds was an accident to be honest.
i think it was more of a tease.
CHINA, i agree with christian on this, They are very powerful....in this situation, i wouldnt be worried about north korea, as much as i would worry about china's response to our overthrowing north korea.
I have a genious idea tho...... Why dont "we" STOP selling nuclear technology.......thats is friggin STUPID!
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 8, 2006 19:09:05 GMT -5
i do not think that all these countries hate USA only because USA is strongest.i personally think that it is because of US foreign relations with other countries.
they killed many civillians in Iraq because of nuclear and chemical weapons but they found nothing.N.Korea had these kind of weapons even at that time but USA did not-could not do anything about it even they did not hide anything about it.
a fair leadership in the world can reduce the hate that many countries have for USA.they sell the old tecnology to get a better-newer technology,i personally believe that there has been many of the created wars just to sell these old weapons.
no one would wanna have a nuclear war in the world but looks like it is gonna happen soon and we altogether will (or will not) find out if there is a GOD or not.
if we,mankind want to have peace on this earth then everyone should start believe that all races are equal and no nation's people is higher than the others'.because if the understanding of being higher than others becomes as the most popular way,then the others will work for this too and wars will happen and these wars will be strong enough to end everything.no one will be happy after all.it is better for everyone to live in peace.
if some people are reacting in negative ways it is not always because of they are being evil.they may have reasons to react that way,and rich does not understand the poor but poor is human as much as the rich.and being stronger does not make anyone right because of this power because once pharaoh was the strongest but he was not good.
anyways,soon or late we all will die and i believe that GOD will tell us who was right and who was wrong.i hope that the end of mankind is very soon because this world does not seem as somewhere to live peacefully.as a believer i prefer the heaven if i receive forgiveness on the certain day.
wanting the peace requires more than a plain wish.i really hope that N.Korea or another powerful country will not attack on USA because there are enough of countries in the world that "their civillians are dying in their home countries",and i would not want you guys to experience another 9-11 or possibly something much stronger by a nuclear weapon.i prefer people to realise certain things without experiencing them,so in this way no one will look for revenge and we will be able to build a more peaceful world by knowing our borders and limits.
ps.these are my thoughts in very honest way.all i want is peace,i am sick of hearing of more people dying everyday,more people being raped front of their families and more people with burnt hearts because of losing their beloved ones.
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Post by gambit on Jul 8, 2006 20:08:08 GMT -5
The world will be destroyed by fire this time, instead of water.
Good post, Engin. Whether we all agree, or not, we will one day be at the end of this world's time.
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Post by CHARLES WARMACK on Jul 8, 2006 23:04:07 GMT -5
Just sharing a thought, I don't think Japan is afraid of N. Korea. It is hard to imagine, but they are more powerful now than they were in WW2. They have one of the most sophisticated navies in the world, second only to us and the British, and they have the 6th largest air force as well. Lets not forget about the 7 American Marine Corp Bases and the 9 Air Force instillations either. I lived there for a year while I was in the Marines, and I can say with certainty that they could bomb N. Korea off the map by themselves. Just be grateful that they are one of our most trusted allies now.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 9, 2006 2:19:20 GMT -5
i hope they all come to a peaceful resolution. I pray for peace.
The bible teaches the rapture will occur before the earth is burned up. So if we are this close to nuclear war, how much closer are we to the rapture?
for those who dont know what the rapture is, it is where Christ will appear in the clouds and take up the church. This will happen instantaneously and could happen any second.
95% of all bible prophecy has been fullfilled. The other 5% occurs after the rapture.
The rapture will be the next greatest move of God.
Now i believe there can and will be revivals throughout all the lands. As the word say he will pour out his spirit........but on the other hand, it may be the wrath side of spirit that scripture was refering to. I guess we will see soon enough.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Jul 9, 2006 9:36:09 GMT -5
Engin: And you know whats funny? All of the Countries that "hate" us, ALL and I mean ALL have their hands out for foreign aid from us....EVEN North Korea. So its get what you can from the BIG EVIL U.S....
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 9, 2006 12:52:50 GMT -5
Christian: some of these countries feel like their rights have been taken in illegal ways in big portions but given back to them as aid with small portions to make it look good.
the interesting thing is that all sides see the other sides as evil.if you ask most of the westerners about Muslims they probably will answer you as muslims are evil.but Russia has been evil to some's understanding and they are not muslims,now N.Korea is evil to some people's understanding and they are not muslims either.even westerners have been evil to eachother's understanding but they are not muslims either.
i personally believe that every nation has evil and good people in them.i can not call any nation as evil ,as long as this nation has no desire of taking other's rights.
i think countries need to blame their enemies as calling and showing them as evil ones to their public,so in this way they can adjust what they are doing.
Saddam has been a dictator and personally i do not like him.i have never liked his ways and no muslim can like the things that he did.all the people that he killed were muslims.his party was a socialist party and had nothing to do with Islam.but the thing that i do not understand is that Saddam was the same way when US was supporting him against Iran in the Iraq-Iran war for many years by giving him weapons.at that time he was counted as a friend by USA but whenever he started to support Palestenians then he became an evil man for USA because of Zionist pressure.so these kind of double standards left no faith in the nations about US foreign actions.
it was same about Taliban too.USA supported Afghans against CCCP for many years because they were enemies and USA wanted to have it's presence at that region.whenever Afghans won against CCCP Taliban became an enemy to USA.so that people thinks that they are used by USA against CCCP.
as i wrote before,all sides see the others as big evil.countries feel threatened by USA because of what it has been happenning.they ask eachother,"who is the next victim?and for what created reason?".
Christian,you do not know this but some nations really feel this way and feeling threatened creates anger and hate.
there has been no chemical neither bioligical weapons,that were the main reason to attack on Iraq,found in Iraq but everyday we still hear that tens of people are dying in Iraq and many of them are civillians.those people are Iraqy and they are getting killed in their own countries.so can you imagine how they feel about it when they lose their family members?
the other day again we watched another news about raping and killing by soldiers.it was a teenage girl that was raped and shot from her head after the soldiers reached the satisfaction front of her family.
you may think that it is normal but to me it is not normal.she was not my sister but she was a sister of someone,and a daughter of some people.
about 9-11 there are some different theories,but even these theories are wrong and the responsible person is Laden,then he is an evil man because of killing civillians.but if your response is in the same way then i do not see any difference between the sides.
a person who believes in GOD and in judgement day,should not kill.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 9, 2006 16:00:24 GMT -5
engin i dont understand your signiture phrase
"ALL I WANT IS A FAIR COMPETETION ...55 done!60 done! 65 done! 70 done! "75 is the next"!!! 80-85 are for the future "
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 9, 2006 16:08:14 GMT -5
hello Ryan, i wrote "all i want is a fair competetion" because i am sick of being cheated.and i wrote "55 done!60 done! 65 done! 70 done! "75 is the next"!!! 80-85 are for the future " because i won the world titles in 55-60-65 and 70 kg which are the 4 lightest classes in WAF championships. so i am planning to compete and win in 75 kg class in this year's world championships in England.and i am hoping to win two more different classes in the WAF worlds and have world titles in 7 different weight classes out of 11 total classes. just a dream,dont take it seriously
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Post by chrislydman on Jul 9, 2006 16:16:38 GMT -5
Engin, you are probably very close to realizing that dream, and I for one would not be surprised at all. Anyone who has followed the sport wouldn't take that dream/goal lightly!
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 9, 2006 16:26:49 GMT -5
thanks Chris, i really am working very hard to fulfill the 75kg part of this dream in England,if i win i will be the only one in the history.now both i and Tschakilov from Russia has 4 different weight titles in WAF.i believe in myself about 75kg,but about 80 and 85 kg i am not so sure because it is very hard for me to be a solid 80 or 85 kg anytime soon.i just checked my weight today,i am 80kg but the computer says that i have 7,5 kg unnecessary fat.so i think i am 72,5 kg in a solid way.so i must eat more protein to gain muscle and start dieting to lose unnecessary fat and look younger all i gained in 14 years was 10 kg,because i was 62,5 kg in daily life when i was competing in 55 kg class but i was dieting down to 55 kg.and now i am about 73 if i can be in a good shape. anyways,thanks again for your support!
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 9, 2006 21:29:21 GMT -5
im always for records being broken
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