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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2006 10:40:29 GMT -5
Mark,
that shows what Zionist prime minister thinks of their L.I.. Forgive me but your patriotism does not wanna accept the facts but your president also knows that what Sharon says is the fact.
anyways,
let us close these subjects,i just believed that it would be a good idea to show to Americans what is at the other side of medallion.
also my media is in a general way also controlled by Zionists.so you are talking about what you do not know.
take care.
PS. i have no negative feelings about Todd since thinking that he called my faith as his butt was just a cultural misunderstanding.i would never call him in the bad way that i called with my anger if i did not misunderstand him.but him saying that i hate Jews is not true at all.in my country many Jews people live for over 500 years we have been living in peace.
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Post by Mark Evans on Jul 24, 2006 10:41:55 GMT -5
Engin while on my way to work today I listened to a news reporter describe a Lebanese women holding her dead baby caused by Israel bombing. We do get both sides. It doesn't make it any better. To bad most of us believe it will never end.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2006 11:03:52 GMT -5
it is great that your media gave you describition of one out of 400 civillian killings. also i am not saying that 100% of the media is sold,but close,both in my and your country.since you consider yourself as an objective wiewer,and since i fully believe in your honesty (as i have been following your posts) maybe you can take a look at the news of mideast from a different media group of United States of America; www.wingtv.net/todaysshow/monday/monday.rm?PHPSESSID=c91b07923eb143d2f6d318fdc46e6f79
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Post by Elaine Blik on Jul 24, 2006 13:23:37 GMT -5
Engin, the prime minister of Israel is not the president of our country. He can say what he wants. It doesn't make it fact. Orthodox Jews are not Christians. I know you know the story, they don't believe in Jesus as the son of God. That's why they crucified him. All Christians don't believe in the same things, that's why we have different religions and the majority of Americans who don't believe at all. . NAIL ON THE HEAD, MARK!
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Post by Mark Evans on Jul 24, 2006 13:35:21 GMT -5
Interesting, I will give that some thought before replying.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2006 13:46:35 GMT -5
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Post by Mark Evans on Jul 24, 2006 16:50:08 GMT -5
Engin, that is interesting stuff. How do we know the Israel soldiers were across the border? When did this information get out and who provided it? Honestly there is so much dishonesty in governments it is hard to trust any of them.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2006 17:22:54 GMT -5
Mark, i will try to find an information for you but the only thing that i will tell you is that not even a single fly can enter into Israel without their permition. it is impossible them to enter Israel and arrest Israeli soldiers.they hardly breath in their own lands.forget about entering Israeli land with weapons and kidnapp soldiers and then leave the country. no way
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 24, 2006 17:31:33 GMT -5
another country = occupied land.not in Israel's legal borders.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 24, 2006 21:54:04 GMT -5
I love Jesus....and i support israel....I pray for the peace of Israel...... I try not to question why a military does the little things....we miss the big picture.
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Post by Justin Kaufman on Jul 24, 2006 22:39:28 GMT -5
I hate to say this but I've read everything on this and other threads, mostly posted by Engin and I have a question. What the hell is a zionist and what is it that they believe? I'm sure someone can tell me without a huge description(short and to the point would be nice). Call me a "Matrix" geek but all I know about Zion is it is a city below the surface to save human from the machines trying to kill them (that is from the movie for those who haven't seen it, if you haven't seen the movies shame on you)
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 25, 2006 5:02:50 GMT -5
Edwin,
i think you are right,i must step away from at least off topic forum as long as i am not offended.
the only reason that i wanted to show the other side of medallion was because i always believed that American public are good people but they have been misinformed by certain powers.
you are right,may be i should go to more serious forums about this but dont you think that at those forums people already knows what the facts are?because there will always be someone like me on the serious forums because people chooses those forums for this discussions.so i thought that it would be a better idea to communicate with the innocent people where i am known well.
that is true that i probably receive hate or anger by sharing all these,some of the members even started personal unrighteous attacks to cover the subject and bring the attention to personal matters by misleading people.
i many times asked myself about why i do this,why can i not hide my thoughts? it deeply hurts me all the Muslims are labeled as "terrorists" while the others are labeled "defenders,or heroes".
it is not true,just because they write so many movie scenarios where people of this region is always "terrorists" it does not change the facts.
zionists are not great only in the movie industries but also great in the real life scenarios.i just get sick when i follow their scenarios to take other's rights by deceiving and using innocents.they are not honest,they play with the minds to control them.
yes i am well aware of losing personal credits by sharing my thoughts,and i may receive negative results for it in my athletic career but it is ok.there are things in life that are more important than armwrestling.
i will listen to your advice and step away from it as long as im not questioned,pointed or offended by someone.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 25, 2006 5:11:06 GMT -5
I try not to question why a military does the little things....we miss the big picture. little things? attacking on a refuge camp and killing up to 3.500 innocent civillians by smashing the little babies' heads to the walls are considered little things by you? think about it if Palestanians were the ones that killed 3.500 innocent Israeli civillians in a refuge camp,then do you think that US media would not remember these butchery every year on the same date? i know they do not care about it because the ones that they got killed were Palestanians.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 25, 2006 5:13:16 GMT -5
Justin,
if you really are searching for the truth then you must be patient.there is a thread called "WHAT IS ZIONISM",just take 5 minutes and read it if you really wanna know something.
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Post by Toddzilla on Jul 25, 2006 6:29:27 GMT -5
What chances are there that an ARMWRESTLER is going to make a shred of difference. People like Todd Hutchings will offer you only so much of an intellectual burp. Gee Edwin, you must be really really smart. Really smart. Nothing says "I'm smart" like a 30 minute post by someone saying "I'm smart". Please share with us peons the 'All Natural Low Carb solution for Peace in the Middle East' you developed with your big brain. Excuse my immense stupidity, but in this thread, aren't we all arm wrestlers? Except for you of course.
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