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Post by enginterzi on Aug 29, 2006 11:36:30 GMT -5
Allen,
if you were writing in Turkish in a proper way,or if i were writing & understanding in English as great as you do,then there would be less problems between us about serious subjects.
i agree with you about being emotional but i believe that i am not the only one.i feel more pressure and react more because of being the only one at my side in this argument.
cultural understandings of good,bad and normal are different in my and your culture.i agree with your words as long as i am not the only one who is blamed in your points.
believe me that i do not want to continue anymore but i will continue as long as all continue.
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Post by gambit on Aug 29, 2006 11:47:11 GMT -5
.i agree with your words as long as i am not the only one who is blamed in your points.. . Rest assured, you are not the only one.
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 29, 2006 12:01:44 GMT -5
I'm evil? That's not very nice. Todd, do you not think the same of me?you believe that all Muslims are evil. what do you mean below?how was i before and how do i look now? "I feel your postings have helped every body get a true view of who you are."
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Post by Toddzilla on Aug 29, 2006 12:15:03 GMT -5
i have no negative thought about anyone on this board except Todd Hutchings,because i know that all you and others write is because of what you believe as i write what i believe. i have negative thoughts about Todd because i believe that his purpose is creating hostility between i and others. i would shake the hand of any of you as long as you shake my hand.but i would never shake the hand of Todd because he is hostility creator between "OTHERS". a person choosing hostility between him and others is a different than creating hostility between others by sneaky ways. Your carpet bombing posts and calling people liars and slanderers might of had a tiny bit to do with this. I may be wrong on this, having not read all 22 pages, but I think you were the only one to call people names. Remember Buttface? I'm evil? That's not very nice. Todd, do you not think the same of me? what do you mean below?how was i before and how do i look now? "I feel your postings have helped every body get a true view of who you are." If I thought you were evil I would say " I think you are evil" I think you are wrong. I think you hate Jews. I think you no longer want to be friends. I think you need a girlfriend.
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Post by Matl'e McDaniel on Aug 29, 2006 12:34:20 GMT -5
I think you both are two of the nicest guys in the sport and you both are very, very passionate. Freinds and politics/religion do not mix. Enough has been said by the whole entire world front, we don't need you two busting each others balls about it. Quit your bickering or I will be forced to adorn my full body mideval armor, come to your respective towns and beat the stuffing out of the both of you. I am quite good with a sword by the way... I battle my monkey every day when I get home. Who would have thought you could buy a monkey on the black market who was already battle trained?
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 29, 2006 12:36:42 GMT -5
whenever i or my faith has been slandered i call it,i am not the one to be blamed.
i call you buttface because i understood that you called my faith your butt.later it was corrected.i do not hate Jews,in my faith i am allowed to eat with them even get married with them.but i can not eat with or marry an unbeliever.
once again,i hate Zionists not Jews.i do not hate you but do not find you as a friend because once you wrote that you are not sorry for Muslim civillian deaths but i am very sorry about the civillian deaths of any faith.you hate Islam,and you hate their followers so you hate me too.you find Islam as evil = reason of the crimes,and i am part of Islam.you can not separate the actions of believers and the religions from eachother.but i separate because i do not carry the responsibility of a muslims crime just because we both believe in Islam as long as i do not support his crime.
PS.i have a gf.
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 29, 2006 12:48:34 GMT -5
Matl'e,
i am sorry and accept that i hold the responsibility of the half of this mess.i for my portion ,apoligy the members who have not been involved in this mess but have been bothered by it.
i am still fighting with myself to stop this argument for my half but i think to this to happen i need others to stop this.
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Post by gambit on Aug 29, 2006 20:29:38 GMT -5
... I battle my monkey every day when I get home. Some things just need to be kept private, Matl'e.
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Post by Arturo Garcia on Aug 29, 2006 21:24:24 GMT -5
That was hilarious
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Post by Ryan Thames on Aug 29, 2006 22:28:30 GMT -5
Christians,who believe that Jesus was-is son of god. Muslims,who believe that Jesus was-is a holy prophet of god. i believe in Jesus to be one of the greatest prophets,born by Virgin Mary Forgive me for jumping in late, and bringing this up, but i have to. Engin i say this with the most respect for you and your human right to believe what you choose to believe. I ask in all seriousness and curiosity. Im a fairly logical thinking man and you show yourself to relativly intelegent. Please explain a= mother - Mary - Woman b = Father - God - Man c = child - Jesus - offspring if a+b = c how is it that in your equation "c" comes from "a" without "b" ? it doesnt add up. If Jesus was born of a virgin. How can he not be the Son of God? Was Jesus Fatherless? For God to Create a Fatherless child, is out of his character i would think. In America we have many "fatherless" children because they have been abandoned. I hardly think God would miraculously created a child within a woman and not claim him as his legitimate child. If God is not his father, who is? It is scripturally, spiritually, logicaly and mathmatically absolutly impossible for Jesus to be the son of a virgin yet not the son of God. If you choose to address this please donot get off track i dont want to discuss another subject as a tangent. If youd rather respond in a PM im ok with that to.
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 30, 2006 4:28:21 GMT -5
Adam and Eve were created fatherless too,GOD do not need a Father neither a mother to create a man.
a mother = female
a father = male
to make a baby together = a sexual relationship
a sexual relationship = sexual organs
GOD = no sexual organ
GOD creates by saying "BE" and it is.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Aug 30, 2006 4:41:20 GMT -5
i guess... the bible refers to Jesus as the 2nd adam
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2006 10:19:15 GMT -5
These are topics which will likely never see resolution; and they will CERTAINLY not be resolved on an armwrestling message board... Disagreement and intelligent discussion is ok - just keep it at a respectable level. This thread will likely grow too...
From Longfellow: If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we would find in each person's story enough suffering and sorrow to disarm all hostilities.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Aug 30, 2006 22:12:41 GMT -5
Engin and i try to have have civil conversation and debate.
good debate even without resolution is healthy, especially when you can remain friends.
To get in a fist fight then shake the mans hand win or lose is a show of great respect in my book.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2006 8:44:07 GMT -5
Sounds good Ryan! Message boards sometimes don't convey the friends part of it very well (to others, anyway) with that text-only thing... I think I heard a radio clip (on ArmTV?) with some non-armwrestling guy who said, "armwrestlers are the same as likes-to-fight guys". He just forgot the "likes-to-shake-hands" part!
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