read please

[enginterzi]

i have been asked to stop this senseless argument by a member of this board,a person that i respect.

i told this member that this can end only with peaceful posts by both sides,and with a certain person to quit new hostilities between me and the Christian members of this board.

i now quit posting anything about that matter as long as i will not read anything offensive anymore about my faith,even though i have tens of pages and plenty of time to post about this matter.

Americans already have negative thoughts about Islam because of ill zionist media and you will not add much on this negativism with your slanderings and didrespectful words.

more you will slander and disrespect more i will reply with truth and same disrespectfullness about your faith in where it will damage the trust of your faiths.

so let us quit before it creates a permanent hostility between us.

i can not change your thoughts&belief and you can not change mine either.

so it will make us bigger if we quit now as i am adviced by this respected member of this board.

PEACE.

[Toddzilla]

I received the same email, from the same person.

I never debated religion with you, only your blaming the Jews\Zionists\Israelies for terrorism and wars.

Nobody is forced to read any thread on the board.

I make no such promise to stop posting on any thread.

I wish for you and everyone else to feel free to post all you want if you think it helps your cause.

I feel your postings have helped every body get a true view of who you are.

[enginterzi]

my true wiew of who i am.

i am a Muslim who believes in peace at home and peace at world.

i believe that GOD has sent books and prophets to Jews and to the Christians.

i believe that zionists have always been the start of evil.

i believe that Americans are good people but being deceived by zionists.

i am a man who is not afraid to die and who is sure about what to face after death.

i received the PM from the person who showed a friendly behaving to me.

i did not see any negativism by this person in these PMs so you are right that my true point of wiew has been seen as i always showed even though people who are evil as you tried so hard.

[Toddzilla]

I'm evil?

That's not very nice.

[enginterzi]

i believe that zionists have been corrupting the United States of America by poisining their families.and they poison the Americans by owning PORN industry,by planting hostilities between Americans and the rest of the world.

[enginterzi]

Todd,

you do not debate because of you believe in truth,you join this debate to create hostility between i and others.that is why i think that you are evil.

[Bill Maenza]

enginterzi said:

i believe that GOD has sent books and prophets to Jews and to the Christians.

I believe the bible to be the Word of God.

[enginterzi]

Zionists have been corrupting American families by using many plans as porn industry,supporting divorces,supporting "too much freedom" that causes negative relationships between parents and children,supporting people to ignore their faith but...

they never support about any of these about their own faith and followers.

[enginterzi]

billmaenza said:

enginterzi said:

i believe that GOD has sent books and prophets to Jews and to the Christians.

I believe the bible to be the Word of God.

Jews,who believes in old testament to be word of GOD,but denies new testament and quran as believing to be words of evil.

Christian,who believe in Bible to be word of GOD but denies quran to be word of evil.

Muslim,who believes in quran,and believes in Bible to be from GOD but later to be corrupted.

[enginterzi]

Jews,who believes that Jesus was a son of adultery and was an evil deceiver.

Christians,who believe that Jesus was-is son of god.

Muslims,who believe that Jesus was-is a holy prophet of god.

[enginterzi]

Todd,

it is easier for you to be in this debate because Christians believe in old testament too,even though Zionists believe that Jesus was an evil man whose birth happenned after an adultary.and it is easier for you because Americans read,hear and watch only what the zionists put front of them.

so i am in a harder position even though i believe in Jesus to be one of the greatest prophets,born by Virgin Mary who was-is will be the most clean woman ever.even though i believe that Jesus has done all those miracles by the power of GOD.

the only difference between i and Christians about Jesus is his nature and mission.but they feel themselves closer to the zionists who believe Jesus to be a person who was born by adultary,and was an evil deceiver who deserved to be hanged.

[gambit]

Lately language barriers have been the reasons for a lot of misunderstandings. Political, Armwrestling, and Religious debates have taken a turn for the worse, or turned into a debacle, when words are taken out of context from their true meanings. Both sides are guilty of this.

When scriptures are posted, by the person of opposite faith, they are sometimes taken from their true context to fit that person's point of view.

On politics - This world is full of misinterpretations which eventually leads to war of all kinds. People get emotional and the heart speaks instead of the brain.

Armwrestling - Well, you know what is going on, so come to your own conclusion.
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I ask this; how can the debates here be escalated to such levels through what other people WRITE and what the reader INTERPRETS?

Religion - How can a person not understand what "friends" are writing, but can interpret the Holy books properly? And in that barrier how can one answer, definitively, through the words they themselves will use for others to understand?

Politics - How can we excuse what this world is comng to in the world of politics?

Armwrestling - How can we have immorality in this sport which we all love at the expense of others?

I challenge everyone to answer these with a calm demeanor.

[enginterzi]

i read Holy Books in Turkish but post in English so you can understand.

[gambit]

I understand that, Engin, but I am talking about in "context' not "translation".

[enginterzi]

i have no negative thought about anyone on this board except Todd Hutchings,because i know that all you and others write is because of what you believe as i write what i believe.

i have negative thoughts about Todd because i believe that his purpose is creating hostility between i and others.

i would shake the hand of any of you as long as you shake my hand.but i would never shake the hand of Todd because he is hostility creator between "OTHERS".

a person choosing hostility between him and others is a different than creating hostility between others by sneaky ways.