What do you consider steroids?

[Chris Kaufman]

I just watched a thing on Gary Sheffield about the whole baseball steroid thing. He had said that he took something that he put under his tongue (some sort of liquid), and something that he rubbed on his muscles. I can only guess what he was actually taking. I'm assuming that the stuff under his tongue was some form of Deca, and the stuff he was rubbing on his muscles was some new form of HGH. My old roommate played college football and had got the HGH stuff from a doctor, but said didn't work for crap.

The point of my post is he kept saying that he doesn't believe that what he was taking was steroids. That steroids are something that you shoot in your ass. He was saying that unless you are in some competitive sport that you wouldn't understand that what he was taking wasn't steroids. I know that you can get steroids in pill form (Dianobol, Windstrol), but I personally believe that what he was taking shouldn't be considered steroids like the rest.

Having played sports for 8 years and then armwrestling, I for one have pretty much taken anything I can get my hands on legally and/or over-the-counter. I'm not going to lie, some of the stuff I took a while back is banned and/or illegal now, but I don't consider myself to have ever taken steroids.

I just wanted to know what everyone thought about what is considered real steroids and what is not, seeing how we are all in a competitive sport.

[Erick "Zap" Szczap]

There was a huge thread on this a while ago. There was no real concensus as to what is okay and what's not. Personally, I stick to the idea that if I can buy it at GNC then it's fine, but if I gotta find 'alternative' ways of getting it then it's not. I'm also of the mindset "to each his own". I'm not gonna use the stuff, but in a sport where there is little testing, I have to assume that there's a chance the guy I'm pulling might be juiced. So if my opponent has gone down the 'alternative' path, so be it.

[CHRISTIAN BINNIE]

Test comes in patches and a RUB ON!!!!!!!!

DECA is only INJECTED!

[Chris Kaufman]

I got confused with the Deca. I took this stuff called Decavar back in highschool that I put under my tongue, and assumed it was the same thing which it's not.

My friend did try and take a new form of HGH that you rub on your arms though, but like I said it didn't work very well. His girlfriend's dad was a doctor and had him try it.

[Robert Bishop]

I'm still pissed about the ephedra thing

[Johnny Edwards]

I consider anything you put into your body that it didn't make itself naturally to be not natural. You added a synthetic made substance that your body didn't make itself. But a lot of substances are nothing like taking steroids.

[Johnny Edwards]

I have taken stuff to heal my cartiledge before but I haven't ever really felt to big of an urge to take anything else. Not sure why I mean I thought about it but I ended up not cause it seems like it would get expensive.