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Post by Chris Coletti on Feb 4, 2005 18:17:52 GMT -5
Hey, Change my name to Chris "The Man" Coletti!
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Post by Joe Bacca on Feb 4, 2005 18:43:57 GMT -5
Hi Kurt,
First I want to THANK YOU for all your efforts to keep this board alive, I know it takes alot of work & if it means anything to you I have made several purchases from your advertisers.
However I guess I need to claify myself, because you & others are missing my point...
Your intent is good, but very unsafe... I'd love to post my full name and love to see everyones full name, but realistically on an open board like this one in which anyone surfing this site can just view (without being a member), is just not safe!
When i posted my reply I was not refering to myself, (like you and many think) ... but others who want to remain & want to become members.
SENERIO: those who are just surfing this site, don't know me & do not need to know my full name, if they want to go out of their way to find out, well then that is another issue, which has legal overtones.
ps, my "website" is not on my profile... (which u posted, on your reply, so PLEASE delete it, thank you)
At any rate, I was inviting other armwrestlers to see this board & to join & they told me they like it, but wont join because they think they have to post their full name... others just do not feel comfortable with it... put yourself in their shoes for a moment...
If someone registers to becomes a member & you request their FULL name I find no problem with that & you should get their full name...
It's especially risky because this is a very this fast growing board...
Most armwrestlers know each other, a pic & 1st name is quite sufficient... & safest for all.
Senerio... if someone really wants, they can make up a name & provide a pic, ask you to register them & they are in right, you don't ask for any proof of identity... so almost anyone can become a member & then they can create problems, (correct me if I'm wrong, this is what you are trying to avoid)?
So by posting full names does not solve it...
does it?
Full names may work if u password restrict this site to members only.
But for an open board, I don't think there is any harm in us only posting our first name... (many are forgetting, that in this day & age, we are open to all sorts of stalkers, security & identity theft issues, many want to keep their personal info private or at least to a minimum... espeically women from stalkers & x's...
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Post by Christopher Myers on Feb 4, 2005 18:55:31 GMT -5
So I guess me changing my id to? is out  oh well ... I will just have to go back to
Christopher Myers then
who was formerly Christopher Byers |
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Post by josephsirois on Feb 4, 2005 19:21:24 GMT -5
I agree with Harry on a lot of points here, personally I'll be sticking around but it is a bit unnerving having my full name out there. I trust everyone on this board but not people who just view it.
Ultimatly this is Kurt's board, I love what he's done with it, and it's his board to make the rules on. One suggestion might be is to turn off the feature for users to change names, or maybe go by first name and last initial.
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Post by Dan Fortuna on Feb 4, 2005 19:41:07 GMT -5
Let the Stalkers come I just hope shes good looking!!!  Dan Fortuna 108 south rd WadingRiver NY P.S. and soon to be divorced if I keep posting like this  |
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Feb 4, 2005 19:51:59 GMT -5
Harry: these "other " armwrestlers can stay where they are, OR go to the "other " board and remain anon, where its encouraged, they seem to like it that way.
IS there still another board?
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Post by Joe Bacca on Feb 4, 2005 20:39:05 GMT -5
There we go again... many of u are so focused on these others who want to remain anonymous... all I know is that this board is like a BIG GLASS house... everyone can see in... do they need our FULL NAME too? PASSWORD RESTRICT IT TO MEMEBERS ONLY... is what I'm saying, or like Joeseph said, give people the option to first name & last initial. Christian, I think u just want everyone to know your full name... wear a billboard then  |
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Post by Scott Latella on Feb 4, 2005 22:10:18 GMT -5
It's ok Harry, my buddie from Area 51 says we are all coded by DNA, not name in the X-Files.
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Post by gambit on Feb 5, 2005 8:21:48 GMT -5
... (many are forgetting, that in this day & age, we are open to all sorts of stalkers, security & identity theft issues, many want to keep their personal info private or at least to a minimum... espeically women from stalkers & x's... I understand your point Harry, but you also have to realize what you do on a daily basis puts your identity out there for all to see. For example: You said earlier that you made several purchases from Kurt's sponsors? You either had to pay for it by creit card, check, or money order. Aside from the money order, you used one of the other two means of payment. What information did you have to give for the credit card option? By using a check, do you not think some of your most personal identification info. is not on there? Normally, checks have your full name, address, phone number, D/L#, and/or SSNs on them (I don't know why some would do that). Just in the information given on those items are enough for someone to siphon your bank accounts and create you debt quicker than any information that may be given on this forum. Wouldn't you agree? Maybe a password protect is a good idea for some situations, but if you do not want it read by the public at large, then use PM. You show concern for the ladies being stalked (I have mainly seen you are the one stalking for their pics to post in the "Sexiest Female Armwrestler...") , but haven't you posted pictures of non-members? Maybe you had their consent, but is that still safe? Just making some points... |
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Post by Frank Bean on Feb 5, 2005 9:26:22 GMT -5
Excellent points Allen and that is exactly why my driver's license # and my SS # definitely are not printed on my checks. Somehow I believe I started this whole thing since I was named in the first post. "One requirement of this board is that your name must be displayed. I prefer first and last name to be shown. Some of you have just your last name showing, and that is fine for now. Some day I will take the time to go through all 176+ members and change all of them to first AND last name. Nicknames and initials are not acceptable. For example: 'corpse' and 'FB' don't work for me. Nothing personal." I took my whole name off and was just using my initials. I had no intention of trying to be "anonymous" (the dreaded deed  How would that be possible since my picture is on any post I make, it shows the state I'm from, shows my email address, my website, and says I'm the President of AAA! I didn't think that FB with my photo would confuse anyone as to my identity. After all, I see Brzenk, Keith, Harry Z, Ralph, Cobra, armtv, Plaster, Duke and never for a moment thought these people were "anonymous". There sat their photograph so no question. I do have to say I have no idea who corpse was that Kurt referred to. At any rate, Harry has definite valid points. One of the main things stressed for internet usage is protect your privacy at all times! When anyone of us asked to register on this board, we were required to submit our identity information along with photo to Kurt. Then and only then were we allowed to post on here. So, no one is or can be "anonymous" on this board. |
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Post by Joe Bacca on Feb 5, 2005 10:01:08 GMT -5
Allen... hi... (everyone else too )... I agree with what you are saying, but not matter what, our info is out there for someone to get... but we need to do our best to keep it to a minimum... Allen, and as far as me putting pics of HOT Sexy females up, THAT'T IT, NO MORE! (Just males, ;D LOL) Frank B... now we all know who you are... LOL Harry Z... guess everyone knows me for good reasons only ;D LOL ... but there is no doubt certain greats  like Brzenk & Cobra, do not need full names displayed... now do they Kurt?   |
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Post by Chris Coletti on Feb 5, 2005 10:21:58 GMT -5
Harry Is correct. Dan I hope that was not your correct home address. Even if you don't believe that a threat exists. Even if you think you could handle one if it did. Think of your family and keep them protected. Go read the story last month of the girl who was trying to sell puppies on the internet. She lived in a "small town where nothing ever happenes". She gave out her address to a customer online looking for puppies. She was 8 months pregnant at the time. They found her dead with the baby cut out of her. The threat does exist and it is real. When we make sites for people we always protect thier total identity from being revealed for security reasons. Monsters are real....and most of them surf online. Here is a link to the story. www.local6.com/news/4005020/detail.html |
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Post by Bill Cox on Feb 5, 2005 10:28:25 GMT -5
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Post by Frank Bean on Feb 5, 2005 10:53:24 GMT -5
"I think the idea of both names is more to make everyone more familiar with each other. I know when I went to Unifieds last year I met quite a few pullers there that I recognized from their picture on the board and I also knew their name before I approached them. I think this is good for a lot of the new pullers to know the names and faces of other pullers so they can look for them at events. As for password protected we are trying to get exposure for the sport not limit it to a certain few. We also want possible sponsors to come on and see our sport and all it has to offer. No one needs to show their e-mail or home address if they choose not to." Bill any member of this board can find out full information about another by simply sending them a PM if their email address is not listed or an email if it is. Using Brzenk as an example - if I'm a new member and don't know who he is, I can just drop him a line and ask. John's not hiding from any new armwrestling members, he's just using his last name as a sign in because the whole entire armwrestling world has heard of Brzenk. Again, if new or old members want to meet someone that they've been chatting with at the next event, that's easy. Full names posted on here isn't going to make that happen any more than using first initial and last name, last name only, initials, etc. And everyone that comes on this board knows the faces - they're posted for everyone to see so that really makes it easy to recognize someone at an event. A lot easier than a name. For example, I've never met some people on this board, i.e. Scott Latella, Joe Lagasse, John Ruggerio but I'd recognize them at an event from their photos. And at my age, I can't remember names anymore anyway:)  |
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Post by Pete & Tim on Feb 5, 2005 10:54:14 GMT -5
I would have to agree with what most of you have said, but you have to remember this, if someone wants information on you or anyone else, it is possible to get it.
This board in particular does not give out anything except your full name and which state you reside in. Thats it!!! Any other information you would actually have to give out yourself. I would love to give an example, but the risk of internet stalking is to high.
I do believe in what Chris Coletti said as far as people seeking out prey on the internet. I also believe that giving out such personal information (e.g. home address) would with out a doubt make the risk of internet stalking higher.
But, as far as this board is concerned, you can give your full name and not have to worry too much about any problems!!!
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How would that be possible since my picture is on any post I make, it shows the state I'm from, shows my email address, my website, and says I'm the President of AAA! 
like Brzenk & Cobra, 
