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Post by enginterzi on Sept 19, 2009 15:29:56 GMT -5
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Post by Jake Smith on Sept 19, 2009 18:30:30 GMT -5
i would guess if you have to keep injecting your joint then scar tissue will build like cortizone injections
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Post by Dave Campbell on Sept 19, 2009 20:49:50 GMT -5
I have tried this in my knee. It worked for me. I was pain free for 14 months. I have just finished my second round of injections and again I am pain free.
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Post by Hungry Hippo on Sept 19, 2009 21:08:34 GMT -5
any side effects from this?
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Post by Howard Lacy on Sept 19, 2009 22:07:52 GMT -5
i dont know if id try that .....that needle looks preaty big....
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Post by Dave Campbell on Sept 19, 2009 22:26:18 GMT -5
I had no side effects from this. The needle is painless if it is done right.
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Sept 19, 2009 23:22:17 GMT -5
I know someone who got a little in his wrist.. Helped But didnt last too long.. Maybe a couple months
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Post by enginterzi on Sept 20, 2009 3:25:36 GMT -5
I have tried this in my knee. It worked for me. I was pain free for 14 months. I have just finished my second round of injections and again I am pain free. this is what i wanted to hear,thanks a lot Dave! |
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Post by Dave Campbell on Sept 20, 2009 6:42:29 GMT -5
You are welcome Engin. Good luck with it.
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Post by Kamal Patel on Sept 20, 2009 21:31:25 GMT -5
Hey Engin-- be careful with this injection. The efficacy of injectable hyoluronic acid highly depends on where you inject--the knee is as far as I know the most studied. And it may have side effects, more so that cortisone or other shots (meaning, more pain after than before). Unlike cortisone, I don't think it's associated with long-term weakening of joint tissue with multiple shots.
For a first line of treatment, if you have enough cash, you might want to try injectable dextrose (called "prolotherapy") or injections with platelet-rich plasma. In the US, the types of doctors who do these are often physiatrists, with orthopedic surgeons and sport medicine non-surgical doctors also doing them. Good luck with whatever you decide! I myself may try a third type of shot that they use in Germany sometimes, called "Traumeel". I still have some research to do on that, but will post if it looks promising.
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Post by Shawn Lattimer on Sept 20, 2009 22:12:29 GMT -5
Looking at joint pain----one treatment to look at is called Alflutop. I did 2 cycles of this and it helped my elbow pain immensely. I know its pretty readily available in Europe, but not in the US. I got it from a contact in Romania.
You do 20 IM injections, 1 per day. Not fun, but it does work. And zero side effects.
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Post by enginterzi on Sept 21, 2009 6:02:26 GMT -5
Hey Engin-- be careful with this injection. The efficacy of injectable hyoluronic acid highly depends on where you inject--the knee is as far as I know the most studied. And it may have side effects, more so that cortisone or other shots (meaning, more pain after than before). Unlike cortisone, I don't think it's associated with long-term weakening of joint tissue with multiple shots. For a first line of treatment, if you have enough cash, you might want to try injectable dextrose (called "prolotherapy") or injections with platelet-rich plasma. In the US, the types of doctors who do these are often physiatrists, with orthopedic surgeons and sport medicine non-surgical doctors also doing them. Good luck with whatever you decide! I myself may try a third type of shot that they use in Germany sometimes, called "Traumeel". I still have some research to do on that, but will post if it looks promising. thanks Kamal ! i think that hyoluronic acid is not something similar like cortisone.you can find hyoluronic acid also in Triflex (a joint support product from GNC).this only provides a joint liquid to protect the joint.in my country there is no one that does the prolotherapy and this orthovisc is suggested to me by a very good orthopedist.one of my weight lifter friends tried the Russian version of this medicine (noltrex) on her knees and she started to lift as much as when she had healthier knees.but this doctor who suggested orthovisc to me,told me that Noltrex is not approved by the orthopedy world (he probably meant American FDA) and he will not do this shot to my elbow.he suggested orthovisc instead and i think i will try this even though i am a bit afraid when i imagine that needle in my elbow  |
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Post by Joe Musselwhite on Sept 21, 2009 6:43:43 GMT -5
I wouldn't do it. Instead, try this: www.prolotherapy.org/IndexI'm strongly considering this treatment. Only thing is, it's expensive. |
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Post by enginterzi on Sept 21, 2009 7:39:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't do it. Instead, try this: www.prolotherapy.org/IndexI'm strongly considering this treatment. Only thing is, it's expensive. the thing is that we dont have anyone to perform this treatment over here.this is my major problem and it seems like they can cure it; www.caringmedical.com/conditions/Tennis_Elbow.htm "Symptoms of tennis elbow include pain on the bony bit on the outside of the elbow; weakness in the wrist; pain on the outside of the elbow when the hand is bent back (extended) at the wrist against resistance; pain on the outside of the elbow when trying to straighten the fingers against resistance; and pain when pressing in on the bony bit on the outside of the elbow". i will once again check if they do prolo in Turkey but i will still try orthovisc i think. |
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Post by enginterzi on Sept 21, 2009 8:00:26 GMT -5
Looking at joint pain----one treatment to look at is called Alflutop. I did 2 cycles of this and it helped my elbow pain immensely. I know its pretty readily available in Europe, but not in the US. I got it from a contact in Romania. You do 20 IM injections, 1 per day. Not fun, but it does work. And zero side effects. it seems interesting as well but is it ok with the doping control?? |
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