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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Jul 12, 2005 11:16:50 GMT -5
VENDETTA is comming!!! This edition of tournament will be organized in city of Bansko, Bulgaria. Three pro fights will be performed. First is duel of Miroslav Ivanov (Bulgaria) vs Aleh Matskevich (Belarussia) in up to 78 kg, next is fight of Cvetan Gashevsky (Bulgaria) vs Ruslan Babayev (Ukraine) in up 78 kg. The last fight of the tournament will be duel between Stefan Tsanov (Bulgaria) and August Smisl (Germany). Each fight is duel for points. Ruslan is younger brother of famous competitor, World Champion of PAL 2004 on right hand - Rustam Babayev. Ruslan took 3rd place at European Championships. This year there is yet a fight for title of World Champion of PAL in up to 78 kg category. Defender of this title will be Rustam Babayev himself. Who will he fight with? We will be closer to the answer for that question after VENDETTA in Bansko. Please visit www.armpower.net/index.php?page=armfight and vote for your favourite. Visit www.armpower.net/index.php?page=prognoza_pokaz&sid=7 and read prognosis for fight of Ruslan and Cvetan. |
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Post by josephsirois on Jul 12, 2005 11:28:40 GMT -5
Awesome, thanks for the info Igor. The more exposure to armwrestlers overseas, the better.
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Post by Zhanna Chingule on Jul 12, 2005 13:50:20 GMT -5
Same me, Engin, I think Ruslan has no chance against Cvetan
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Post by Steve Kirlew on Jul 13, 2005 2:32:59 GMT -5
This seems a bit of an unfair match! What about Ruslan Babayev vs. Craig Sanders??
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Post by Bogdan Marin on Jul 13, 2005 8:40:22 GMT -5
Maybe he will learn a few triks from his brother until the meach. And dont forget this is a proffesional mach, not one for amators like europeans ;D Who knows... maybe will see a surprise!!!
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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Jul 13, 2005 12:37:55 GMT -5
Bogdan, you are right. This will be pro match. Six rounds is a real test of power, stamina and tactics. Now both competitors will be fresh when they will met at the table. They will have two minutes breaks between the rounds. Nothing can be undoubtedly excluded, we may even witness a big surprise...
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Post by Bogdan Marin on Jul 14, 2005 16:32:55 GMT -5
I feel i got caught in the middle here. As for cheaters in pro matches, Engin, you might be right but until Igor decides to doping test test the competitors in vendetta we can just speculate about who is on juice and who is not. Until someone is tested positive for me he is a clean man/woman. So Igor, we will ever have vendettas with the competitors tested after? Also i wanna see Engin in a Vedanta with Gashevsky or with Oncescu  . You think this would be possible? |
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Post by Bogdan Marin on Jul 14, 2005 17:43:51 GMT -5
i didnt address no one when i wrote cheaters,i only meant that there is nothing to prevent cheating in a pro tournament.and this is why they are unproven about being clean. this doesnt mean that pro winners are dirty,but there will always be doubts.even europeans and worlds carries doubts since they dont have any off season doping tests,but europeans and worlds still are the only tournaments with doping tests that has proven clean champions. I think in the end it all comes to everybody choice to take or not. I'm sure that in all the Olympic sports many athletes take THE MAGIC CANDY like hungry dawgs and they never get caught! how can an athlete be accepted as clean for sure without getting tested?to say clean is no different than saying that juicy.in both ways we say something that we dont know.at least i know for sure about some athletes using steroids because of their own confessing to me. I think i different because you can't accuse someone until u have proof. Until then he is innocent! having doping controls in pro matches?would be great but is there any pro sport competetion that has doping tests?i ask because i dont know. I dont know either but it would be fun at least just to tell the athletes they will gonna be tested just to see their faces in front of the pee cups ;D about having a pro match against gashevski,it was my suggestion last year but i was told that i must prove myself to armwrestle gashevski.after winning exactly 20 world and european titles i was very suprised to hear this answer.i heard that gashevski has again beat ionescu in a second in last may.i guess it was the third tournament kept beating ion,current 2.placer of EAF in 220lbs(100kg)class. I think you proved more then Ruslan did  You can see the last two bansko contests on my computer where gashevsky meet oncescu: 213.164.224.131/ArmwrestlingClips/ im planning to go to Zloty in october to get revenge from tsindilliani,then the worlds in Japan.if i win both then Gashevski will be the next either in a pro match or EAF if he is still pulling. |
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 15, 2005 11:55:32 GMT -5
you write about accusing,but then you write against your own words.this kind of inconsistants happen when somebody writes or talks about something that dont really believe in.
this is what you wrote;I think i different because you can't accuse someone until u have proof. Until then he is innocent!
and this is what you wrote;I'm sure that in all the Olympic sports many athletes take THE MAGIC CANDY like hungry dawgs and they never get caught!
how can you be sure that they are using them if you say that they are clean?and when you write that "ÝM SURE"about steroid uses,are you not accusing?
i thank you very much about for your good wishes about my goals.believe me that my career is much wider than both what Babaev brothers have together.
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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Jul 15, 2005 13:07:20 GMT -5
The doping tests will not be used in PAL for the time being. We spend too much money on promotion of the sport and we will not spend money on tests now.
Hello Engin. PAL has it own rules, and when we suggested you to fight with somebody else and not Gashevski it was our own suggestion. As I said before, PAL makes it possible to prove who is stronger. I had big hopes with you last year but after several conversations I decided to halt it at that stage. I hope you will meet Gashevsky at Europeans or Worlds.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 15, 2005 15:09:34 GMT -5
Igor,i dont remember of asking you to arrange me a pal match against gashevski lately,so what made you telling me that you hope that im gonna meet gashevski at the worlds or europeans?
the rules that you say pal has inconsistants too.last year you said i cant armwrestle gashevski because i didnt participate the proleague in bulgaria but now ruslan (who didnt participate proleague) armwrestles gashevski.to me it sounds more like how you like =pal rules which is not written down.because you do things against your own word.
by the way i thank you for letting me know your way of looking at me,it helped me to realise that i better check my schedule of tournaments and cancel some of them.
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Post by Pascal Girard on Jul 15, 2005 15:14:23 GMT -5
H bodies.... sure that Zvetan will win...he's much smater and sly than Ruslan... and as well getting much more experiances...
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Post by Pascal Girard on Jul 15, 2005 15:31:16 GMT -5
he he.... i see Engin that you understand fast things yes it is business.. |
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Post by Bogdan Marin on Jul 15, 2005 15:33:27 GMT -5
you write about accusing,but then you write against your own words.this kind of inconsistants happen when somebody writes or talks about something that dont really believe in. this is what you wrote;I think i different because you can't accuse someone until u have proof. Until then he is innocent! and this is what you wrote;I'm sure that in all the Olympic sports many athletes take THE MAGIC CANDY like hungry dawgs and they never get caught! how can you be sure that they are using them if you say that they are clean?and when you write that "ÝM SURE"about steroid uses,are you not accusing? i thank you very much about for your good wishes about my goals.believe me that my career is much wider than both what Babaev brothers have together. My english is still bad, i should quote the "clean". What i meant is that the cheaters will have the same rights as the honest athletes. I compete here in Romania, even if here is a low level of competition, with lots of cheaters(i know they cheat because some of them told me what they use, or one time i just pulled the shorts of someone and saw the needle marks ;D) sometimes i win sometimes i lose so believe me i do care very much about this because i trained very hard for 4 years now 5-6times/week. |
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Post by Travis Bagent on Jul 15, 2005 15:52:56 GMT -5
Engin, calm down we both know you would not fair well against Gashevsky in a 6 round duel, You should put your sites on Saliwada!!!!!!!!!!!!
You don't like Igor and now Igor doesn't like you, it's not that big a deal, this type of thing happens to me quite frequently here in the USA.....
Of course, I am never the cause, as I am sure is the case with you!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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. You think this would be possible?
You can see the last two bansko contests on my computer where gashevsky meet oncescu: 
