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Post by Bogdan Marin on Jul 15, 2005 15:56:19 GMT -5
Unfortunately you-ll see a very small Romanian team in Japan. From what i know only Oncescu will be there... Is hard for the rest of us without internationl results to get a sponsor.
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 15, 2005 16:06:31 GMT -5
i was expecting this ass kisser to get involved to make more money.i have pulled and beat Soliwada six times in one second even first match in vegas when i wasnt hurt and weak as i was in the evening.
i like Igor,i believe he is a good man.but the way that we follow are different than eachother same as you and i.i hate your ways but i like you.and what is between i and Igor is not your ..... business.
please give me a favour and quit kissing ass,some ppl may not like me but i dont kiss ass.because i dont need anyone to help me,or anything like steroids...
i dont lie like you did about Cobra beating you before vegas.it was a very childish game and you were part of it as you are part of other childish and dirty games.
yes you are the best.....forever....but about bull s...ing!!!
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Post by Travis Bagent on Jul 15, 2005 17:38:14 GMT -5
I think you made a mistake!!!!!!!
Engin this is ****TRAVIS BAGENT**** your talking to, please watch your step!!!!!!!!!
The BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Jul 16, 2005 5:38:45 GMT -5
Hello Engin,
Everybody can speak what one thinks. You, Pascal Girard, Travis, everybody can express their opinions. Nobody is kissing nobodys ass. In case of person you refered this words to, he doesn't have to do that because he is very good armwrestler.
Yet, in PAL you can't bet money on fights. PAL never fixes the score of the fight. Ruslan and Cvetan will compete honestly and person stronger and better will be the winner. The title of World Champion of PAL on right hand in up to 78 kg is in hands of Rustam Babayev. Rustam will defend his title against one of three contestants: Gashevsky, Lilejev, Ruslan Babayev. We are planing to organize fights between Lilejev and Gashevsky and between Ruslan and Lilejev. I want to repeat: we are planing to do so. This year there is quite sizeable sum of money for winning the Champion Title in 78 kg.
It is your personal thing what tournaments you have in your schedule and what tournaments you will cancel. It is your business, time, money and your will. But last year at ZLOTY in 78 kg participated all those who you are interested in. Unfortunately you weren't there. This year there are two additional weight categories: 70 (154 lb) and 86 kg (about 190 lb). If you will have time, possibilities and will then we invite you to this tournament. It is opened for everybody. Also Tsindeliani will be there, in 70 kg category. There will be best referees and what is most important: instead of second referee at the table there will be not two but four cameras. We will do our best to make it the most fair refereeing so far. But even when I personally ran at Europeans with a picture and tried to show referees that there was a slip out, when the refs made other-wrong decision in your fight, in your eyes I was the person to be blamed for low level of refereeing. But again, this is your decision and I will not push anybody to do anything. Believe me, there will be good refs, good competitors and what is most important exciting fights.
Wish you successes
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Post by Pascal Girard on Jul 16, 2005 6:03:05 GMT -5
Hi Igor........... Anyway you are right.......... you try to make the things moving one......... and nobody else did it before......... now everybody can think what they want..... business is good for every ones...
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 16, 2005 8:38:03 GMT -5
Travis quit writing childish things,if you wanna behave like an adult i see you somewhere around soon.
Igor,what i write to Travis is between i and him.its the nicest way to express for me.if he helps his boss about popularity of his business then he will be making more money that he worships.
i know for sure because niyazi told me that some of the matches have been made more exciting by telling competitors to make it look exciting.for example niyazi vs miroslav left handed match in best 78kg match.niyazi is very weak with left arm,and he told me that (also i saw by video) they went back and forth a long hook match because of the directive that they got from organisers.
i believe that what you and Assen do is great as long as you show respect to WAF and EAF championships which are the future of the sport.yes its my own business to compete wherever i want,this is why i wrote you that its not your place to tell me where im gonna pull gashevski since i havent asked you to arrange a match.
last year i wasnt there at 78kg because two of my fingers were broken and you knew this.so no need to write here that i wasnt there by acting like it was my own desicion without a good reason while you knew why i couldnt pull.
i will tell you why i behaved like that after last year's europeans.everytime i joined the european meetings what i see is that eastern block behaves like one whole.there is specially one country that represants all eastern block by itself.and there are a few refs from west europe that have very close relationships with unification.im a type of person who expresses whetever he believes,except this year at europeans because i didnt wanna have same problems again.i now believe that you have no part with what happenned to me last year,probably my mistake was keeping responsible that unified group about wrong doings.its very hard to accept any unfairness after giving your all to get ready for the main goal.
if you remember i supported Zloty tour more than anyone else for team US to compete.if i didnt believe that it was a great event i wouldnt care.this year i was planning to bring a big team to Zloty including my own self.but i felt like i wasnt taken friendly by your post one before.also Travis is wrong about me hating you.i take you as a friend,i still answer the questions whenever you ask to me with pleasure of helping armwrestlers.but doing business together is something else.
about competing in any tournament,only thing i expect is fairness.i take armwrestling seriously and i would like to receive what i deserve either winning or losing.i believe that Zloty will be a fair competetion.i will do my best to participate this event as i was planning.thanks for your good wishes.
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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Jul 18, 2005 10:06:22 GMT -5
Hello Engin,
When it comes to ZLOTY TUR then there is no doubt about it that you were the first person that advertised this tournament on message board. Unfortunately there wasn't a 70 kg category last year as well as there wasn't 86 kg category, in which for example Pascal can fight. This year there is such possibility. Roman Tsindeliani personally confirmed his participation in ZLOTY. He asked several times if Engin is comming. I couldn't confirm this to him because the decision depands on you Engin. You will be treated like a real guest, just like we treat other competitors. Remember that I would like to personally invite you together with Turkey Team and Pascal with Switzerland Team. Last Europeans show that Pascal can fruitfully fight for win. And you can undoubtedly reach for gold.
Greetings and see you at ZLOTY
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Post by Willie Reagan on Jul 19, 2005 14:52:11 GMT -5
Engin, I hope you can go to the Zloty. You will kick ass!!!
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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Jul 25, 2005 4:18:49 GMT -5
In last telephone conversation Cvetan Gashevsky said that he will win the title of Champion of PAL Organization on right hand. He isn't afarid of the fight with Ruslan because he is believes he will win.
We have talked also with Ruslan via phone. Draw is the minimal score he consideres. Ruslan has many strong sides and if Cvetan will hit those points it won't be so easy as he thinks.
There are two weeks to the fight. We will see then who is stronger.
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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Jul 26, 2005 22:38:57 GMT -5
This fight will be performed in city of Bansko. It is beautiful place in the mountains. Great number of spectators is expected. Of course the referee team will work with 4 cameras.
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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Jul 27, 2005 12:46:28 GMT -5
It is difficult to tell who will win . On the one hand we have Cvetan - as Engin said, the champion of endurance. On the other hand we have Ruslan who is getting stronger everyday, is young and talented.
Everything will be guarded by referees and cameras and every mistake will be detected. The stronger competitor will win.
It will be one of the most interesting VENDETTA fights. I remember last year when Cvetan fought with Rustam. Rustam was fresh and Cvetan was after a league. And this influenced the result 5:0 for Rustam. It was rather not very interesting fight. This shows how important is to rest, diet and well prepared training.
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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Jul 29, 2005 11:19:35 GMT -5
Nice prognosis. Would it be possible to use it on my site and translate it also into Polish in Prognosis division?
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Post by Michael Lindström on Jul 29, 2005 18:25:43 GMT -5
Hi Engin and all others! Yes, Zloty is something I would not miss! I'll be there with my cameras to document what happend and show you all... So, I hope to meet you there Engin and maybe we could have a "Malin Pull"?
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Post by Igor Mazurenko on Aug 5, 2005 8:11:55 GMT -5
Hello Everyone,
The VENDETTA evening is tomorrow! Big day for Ruslan Babayev. It is interesting how will fresh and young Ruslan cope with experienced Cvetan. Six rounds is a lot for endurance.
Other two fights will also be very interesting. We still have one day to come, one more day for final preparations of the event. I will inform you about the results as soon as it will be possible.
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Post by Bogdan Marin on Aug 7, 2005 13:26:57 GMT -5
Engin you are wrong. Tvetan lost 2-4 to Babayev. Ivanov and Smisil both won with 6-0!
The info is from a friend and is not verified i might be wrong!
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