The Greatest Armwrestlers in History

[tomaszwisniowski]

All lists

Men
- 50 The Greatest Armwtrestlers in History
- The Greatest Armwrestlers

Women
- The Greatest Armwrestlers in History
- The Greatest Armwrestlers

All Pullers I want to put alphabetically on it, only the list of 50 The Greatest Armwtrestlers in History i will start form the Armwrestling Legends ( alphabetically of course )

This list sould be a prize, appreciation, and information about them, and not place disputes.

[Eric Roussin]

Engin, I agree with your list of greatest and legends.

However, I think it is unfair to exclude winners from the old days, just because they didn't compete around the world. I'm not talking about Petaluma titles from 2000, when there were tons of other international high level competitions. I'm talking about titles from the '70s -- when Petaluma was the big show. Cleve Dean was the best between 1978 and 1986. During this time he only competed in the US (I think). It's unfair to not consider these titles. Armwrestling was smaller then, yes. But he was still the best.

[Clint Alwran]

If you guys want to start an armwrestling hall of fame, it needs to be a prestigious honor, like the nfl or baseball. I think you need to be out of the sport a minimum of 3 years to be considered to be in it. Because in my opinion that's what a hall of fame is- the great retirees of that particular sport.

[Casey Szparaga]

Same here Engin.

[enginterzi]

Aug 18, 2010 12:17:34 GMT -5 @tomaszwisniowski said:

I do agree with You Engin. Yes (in History) makes a big difference - Sorry


I want to create this two lists and You will be one of first who I ask about opinion before I will put the lists on my blog.

I need iformations and pics of some great names from the list.

I hope that you will forgive me my mistake

come on my friend, who am i to forgive you and for what also these are the opinions of people,who is right and who is wrong can not be proven in this matter.i see that you love this sport and you try very much to do something good,which i appreciate.all i say is that most of those guys who are on your list were-are GREAT armwrestlers.then the very best ones were-are the GREATEST armwrestlers.



for example;



Gashevski GREATEST Jaba GREAT


Rustam GREATEST Ruslan GREAT


Dave Patton GREATEST Haydar Gildil GREAT


John Brzenk GREATEST Sylvain Perron GREAT


Cobra Rhodes GREATEST Vephkia Samkharadze GREAT


Ron Bath GREATEST Todd Hutchings GREAT


Jan Germanus GREATEST Kevin Bongard GREAT


Cleve Dean GREATEST Michael Todd GREAT


Gary Goodridge GREATEST Don Underwood GREAT


Alan Karaev GREATEST Tim Bresnan GREAT



these are only my opinions,no disrespect intended.

[Rob Vigeant Jr.]

^^^ my thoughts when I first read.

There are great past and present pullers, but the "greatest" should be pullers with long lines of dominance in their category and multiple world titles............or if not many waf titles.........being universally considered the best................like not sure how many left waf titles travis has, but he is undoubtedly the best left.

there are people on the list that were never the absolute favorite or best in their class at any point in time.

[enginterzi]

Aug 18, 2010 12:45:32 GMT -5 Eric Roussin said:

Engin, I agree with your list of greatest and legends.

However, I think it is unfair to exclude winners from the old days, just because they didn't compete around the world. I'm not talking about Petaluma titles from 2000, when there were tons of other international high level competitions. I'm talking about titles from the '70s -- when Petaluma was the big show. Cleve Dean was the best between 1978 and 1986. During this time he only competed in the US (I think). It's unfair to not consider these titles. Armwrestling was smaller then, yes. But he was still the best.

Cleve was great enough to prove himself in 70s,80s and 90s.so i have no doubt about how great he is.

probably LATE 70s was the time for the beginning of the big competetions.again all of these are opinions.

[enginterzi]

Aug 18, 2010 13:09:49 GMT -5 Rob Vigeant Jr. said:

^^^ my thoughts when I first read.

There are great past and present pullers, but the "greatest" should be pullers with long lines of dominance in their category and multiple world titles............or if not many waf titles.........being universally considered the best................like not sure how many left waf titles travis has, but he is undoubtedly the best left.

there are people on the list that were never the absolute favorite or best in their class at any point in time.

yes,beating the current WAF champions are even heavier succes than the winning WAF titles,but there are not many of them around.


Travis beat WAF champions Marcio,Espey,Osmanli,Woelfel and others.

same as John and Devon have been doing.


but it is hard to find these people below 200 pounds.

[enginterzi]

Aug 18, 2010 12:45:00 GMT -5 @tomaszwisniowski said:

All lists

Men
- 50 The Greatest Armwtrestlers in History
- The Greatest Armwrestlers

Women
- The Greatest Armwrestlers in History
- The Greatest Armwrestlers

All Pullers I want to put alphabetically on it, only the list of 50 The Greatest Armwtrestlers in History i will start form the Armwrestling Legends ( alphabetically of course )

This list sould be a prize, appreciation, and information about them, and not place disputes.

i would make these categories;

1. category : Best Ever John Brzenk




2. category:

Best Light Weight Ever Rustam Babayev

Best Middle Weight Ever John Brzenk

Best Super Heavyweight Ever ?



3. category : the Legends



4. category : 50 Great Armwrestlers

[tomaszwisniowski]

When i was 15 was fanatic of basketball
From the time of "BAD BOYS" Ditroit Piston with I. Thomas till end of domination of the Chicago Bulls with Jordan , Pippen, Rodman I was fantic of NBA.

When NBA celebrated 50th anniversary, the Board created the list of the 50 The Greatest Players in history.

On the list thay put Charles Barkley, who never was the best scorer of the season and never won a title.

Thay put him on this list becouse he was on the top meny years.



In my opinion the title sometimes does not provide the size of the player

[enginterzi]

Aug 18, 2010 14:00:30 GMT -5 @tomaszwisniowski said:

When i was 15 was fanatic of basketball
From the time of "BAD BOYS" Ditroit Piston with I. Thomas till end of domination of the Chicago Bulls with Jordan , Pippen, Rodman I was fantic of NBA.

When NBA celebrated 50th anniversary, the Board created the list of the 50 The Greatest Players in history.

On the list thay put Charles Barkley, who never was the best scorer of the season and never won a title.

Thay put him on this list becouse he was on the top meny years.



In my opinion the title sometimes does not provide the size of the player

yes but team sports and individual sports are different things.in Basketball the main goal is victory of the team and players have different duties.

do you know any greatest sprinter in the World without winning a World or Olympic games or without a world record?

please it is apples and oranges.in basketball you play not for yourself but for the team.

[tomaszwisniowski]

SUPER

Great idea

1. category : Best Ever John Brzenk




2. category:

Best Light Weight Ever Rustam Babayev

Best Middle Weight Ever John Brzenk

Best Super Heavyweight Ever ?



3. category : the Legends



4. category : 50 Great Armwrestlers

end

5. category : Great Armwrestlers (only names and country)



Best Super Heavyweight Ever ? - we can put the best candidats and people will decided by a vote.

AND THEN I START TO COLECT PICS AND INFO (D.O.B, TITLES, COUNTRY )

WHEN WE FINISH ALL AND SOME DAY A BEGGINER WILL LOOK ON IT HE WILL BE KNOWS WHO IS WHO AND WHY ..........

I NEED JOHN BRZENK HISTORY
WHO WILL HELP?

[tomaszwisniowski]

Do not get me wrong Engin

In my opinion Hall of Fame is a place for those who deserve nbecause they were, or are in the sport at the top for years

[enginterzi]

i would not compare with basketball but its true that titles SOMETIMES do not provide the size of the athlete.it is usually the case in the heavyweights in our sport.Devon,John and Cyplenkov are 3 examples for this but usual case is the World titles,then comes the winning record against the top pullers.in my opinion beating the best athletes in a supermatch is also some kind of title.


if the win-lose records or the World titles of the athletes dont provide their size then what does? charismatic personality? size of bicep or forearm? tv popularity? posing during the matches? trash talking? so called amount of the weights which are so lifted during trainings? there are only a few armwrestlers in the world that are considered as the best without winning the titles at the greatest events.

[Guy Windover]

Aug 18, 2010 9:32:49 GMT -5 @enginterzi said:

i do not know who is the fastest guy in the world in masters class,do you know who he is?

i do not know who is the strongest olympic weight lifter in the world in masters class,do you know who he is?

in wrestling? there can be more examples.my point is that if the question is the greatest then it can not be divided to ages as how it is in the olympic games.

weight class should be the only division as its in every strength sport. but if you are the greatest then you should prove this against anyone at your size,not only at your age.so in short juniors,disabled and masters can not be considered same as open class.


i have never seen any sport that its masters class athletes are compared with its open class athletes in same category.

I disagree wholeheartedly and will reply with one question. Name me another sport that has as many champions and elite in the age bracket of Masters and Grandmasters? Thats why they should be included!!!!!!!!!!!