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Post by Josh Handeland on Apr 10, 2012 22:12:02 GMT -5
Well Josh I personally think you would think anyone vs me would be a good match because you think I suck for some reason. I am not meeting in a central location because I have absolutely no reason to pull him, meaning I would gain nothing from this. I am on the board and Trapper is not so I have no idea why this would be a "good" match to you. I am not trying to sound like a jerk but even when I beat some people you still claim them to be better than I am. Wtf? I think it would be good means I think it would be close - am I entitled to my opinion? I'm not the only one who thought it would be good. And I don't understand, Trapper is on the board, too? He just posted...  Who did I claim was better than you that you beat??? I moved you above Evan right after you beat him if that's what you're referring to. |
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Post by Josh Handeland on Apr 10, 2012 22:16:45 GMT -5
Josh, given your confidence in a close match, and the fact that Trapper passed up the $100.00 offered for this weekend, I'd like to invite a gentlemen's wager on the match. I'll give you 2-1 odds. You too Trapper. Not sure about that wager yet. Offer that to me again once the match is officially 100% set up and the pull date gets closer. I am really not much of a better to be honest, and Vogt could definitely win it. This is just a request that all of this big talk be met with action. So, which tournament? And how much do the two of you care to wager on your apparently overwhelming confidence? I said it would be close? How is that "overwhelming confidence?" you are the one giving 2-1 odds... you seem MUCH more confident in the outcome than I do. |
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Post by Josh Handeland on Apr 10, 2012 22:24:00 GMT -5
Also, as far as "Vogt being disrespected on the board." and me thinking Jonathan "sucks for some reason". Right Arm 243+ lbs. 1. Richard Lupkes 2. Don Underwood 3. Robert Bishop 4. Paul Fischer 5. Harold Owens 6. Jonathan Vogt7. Evan Berkemeier 8. Travis Berggren 9. Corey Sanborn 10. Bull Huber I don't think that is disrespectful at all on my part. Please correct me if I am wrong As far as Trapper, he is his own person, I don't control anything he says, and we don't even train together, I don't know why I am being associated with him. |
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Post by Jonathan Vogt on Apr 10, 2012 22:43:46 GMT -5
Josh the reason I said that is because you couldn't decide who would come out on top here. If I am "ranked" 6th and Trapper is not even "ranked" and you think it would be close it just makes me wonder.
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Post by Jonathan Vogt on Apr 10, 2012 22:44:47 GMT -5
I heard that you wondered if the person who won armature heavies at SD would give me a run for my money.
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Post by Andrew Bieganski on Apr 10, 2012 22:52:06 GMT -5
That was me that asked john that. I was just curious cuz the guy that won flashed john. And i thought john gives u trouble sometimes. I never pulled u and i was just tryin to get a clue about how strong u are
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Post by John Houston on Apr 10, 2012 23:03:12 GMT -5
Hi Josh, Please let me explain. I don't think you have disrespected Vogt on the board. That was a reference to Trapper's earlier talk of 'ass whoopins'--which I quoted. I do think that kind of talk is disrespectful, and I can't see any reason to think I'm wrong about that.
I am still inclined to think you underestimate what Vogt can do, and I take as evidence for this the fact that you think it would be such a close match. As you noted, Vogt is #6, Trapper is not ranked right-handed. That's why your comment struck me as odd. So on that point we just see things differently. No big deal.
Ya, I guess I do feel confident about this one. And I'm not trying to step on your opinion. I very much appreciate your enthusiasm for the sport and I'm glad that you do what you do. I've enjoyed your posts (I've expressed this to many people). Cool?
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Post by Josh Handeland on Apr 10, 2012 23:06:38 GMT -5
Jon, I think I asked John H if he had anything for you LEFTY. I know righty you're a lot stronger. Yeah I have you ranked 6th and don't have Trapper ranked but I do think there are a couple unranked guys that are strong and can compete with/give good pulls to ranked guys. JMO It is possible that Trapper could beat some of the ranked guys, just hasn't done so yet and therefor is unranked as of now. Styles make match-ups, too. Hi Josh, Please let me explain. I don't think you have disrespected Vogt on the board. That was a reference to Trapper's earlier talk of 'ass whoopins'--which I quoted. I do think that kind of talk is disrespectful, and I can't see any reason to think I'm wrong about that. I am still inclined to think you underestimate what Vogt can do, and I take as evidence for this the fact that you think it would be such a close match. As you noted, Vogt is #6, Trapper is not ranked right-handed. That's why your comment struck me as odd. So on that point we just see things differently. No big deal. Ya, I guess I do feel confident about this one. And I'm not trying to step on your opinion. I very much appreciate your enthusiasm for the sport and I'm glad that you do what you do. I've enjoyed your posts (I've expressed this to many people). Cool? A year or so ago, I don't think I had Jon ranked, either. Things are always changing. I honestly don't think this match would be that close as in a long, drawn out match. If Vogt gets him inside I think he would win easily. Getting him inside would be the hard part. I could be totally wrong. They could pull and Trapper could smash Jon inside, then Jon could toproll him the next 2 or 3 matches and win the supermatch, and then I'd go  haha. Yeah we're cool |
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Post by John Houston on Apr 10, 2012 23:08:15 GMT -5
Guys, it's all good. I don't want to get into a measuring contest here. We are all sportsmen and love this sport. I was just wanting to see the match happen. I do think that some comments that have been made should be more carefully measured before posted. But I will make a better effort to read them as being stated in good fun.
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Post by John Houston on Apr 10, 2012 23:11:19 GMT -5
Styles make matchups. Well said! Very true.
I'm just a pup in armwrestling but I know this point about styles was always the case in boxing. One couldn't always beat the guy who lost to another that he himself had already beaten. Funny how that works out.
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Post by Jonathan Vogt on Apr 10, 2012 23:12:49 GMT -5
Since were talking about lefty. I want to know how come Trapper took my spot on the left board without armwrestling me. I am "active" as I have pulled once or so left in the past year.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Apr 10, 2012 23:13:32 GMT -5
I am cool with both John's, Trapper, and Andrew. I just want to see the match, too.
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Post by John Houston on Apr 10, 2012 23:16:45 GMT -5
Maybe you guys should just pull both hands? It would be the ultimate supermatch sandwich. LOL.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Apr 10, 2012 23:19:44 GMT -5
As far as I can remember, I never had you ranked above Trapper left handed... I think I had you at 10th left? And had Trapper higher up, and didn't have Bull Huber ranked, and when Bull beat Sutton he moved onto the rankings above Bob, which moved everybody down one and moved you off. That was a couple months ago so I can't remember for 100%.
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Post by John Houston on Apr 10, 2012 23:25:50 GMT -5
Jon you should pull lefty this weekend. Kick the rust off that thing.  Good night men. |
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haha. Yeah we're cool