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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 23, 2011 8:40:15 GMT -5
Yeah no kidding. Trust me I'll find more examples. I haven't even mentioned Nixon yet. lol
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 23, 2011 9:25:03 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 23, 2011 9:51:16 GMT -5
Videos worth watching:
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 23, 2011 16:56:29 GMT -5
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Post by Robert Bishop on Mar 25, 2011 13:19:05 GMT -5
what i dont understand is how we get involved in LYBIA and turn around and tell Israel to hold back from retaliation when they are bombed that is so stupid  we are still after Osama from 9 11 but we tell Israel not to strick back |
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 25, 2011 14:02:26 GMT -5
what i dont understand is how we get involved in LYBIA and turn around and tell Israel to hold back from retaliation when they are bombed that is so stupid we are still after Osama from 9 11 but we tell Israel not to strick back Just curious, why are you so pro-Israel? |
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 28, 2011 12:49:36 GMT -5
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Post by Robert Bishop on Mar 28, 2011 15:24:27 GMT -5
what i dont understand is how we get involved in LYBIA and turn around and tell Israel to hold back from retaliation when they are bombed that is so stupid we are still after Osama from 9 11 but we tell Israel not to strick back Just curious, why are you so pro-Israel? its not that how can we tell everyone else how to do things but if it was the other way around nobody would tell us what to do They should be able to defend themselves the same as we do and not be told what to do Who would have told us not to go after Osama or stoped us from that? |
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 29, 2011 9:34:57 GMT -5
Just got finished watching Obama's speech. Am I the only one who thought it sounded like Bush 2.0? What a crock, I'm not buying it. Especially when it cost $600 MILLION the first week.
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Post by Robert Bishop on Mar 29, 2011 15:02:24 GMT -5
he was being dishonest because he said the UN would be taking over most of the operations but what he didnt say was that the UN was led by mostly the US
so either way its a US operation
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 29, 2011 15:26:42 GMT -5
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Post by John Wilson on Mar 29, 2011 16:14:51 GMT -5
Obama lied through his teeth.
You can't deploy an entire Marine Expeditionary Unit and think nobody will notice.
You can't shoot 120 missiles and claim that you are not engaged in war.
You (Candidate Obama) can't claim that a President does not have the authority to go to war without Congressional approval - and then go to war and claim you didn't go to war.
You can't demand that the leader of a sovereign nation must step down and state that you will pursue this, and not call it regime change. Oh yeah, it's not regime change unless we go to war. Oops. Ok, it's not regime change until we put boots on the ground. (That MEU that just deployed better stay on the gators then.)
Joe Biden claimed during the election that if a future President Obama went to war without congressional approval he would call for impeachment hearings himself. (I'm still waiting.)
Isn't this the crack-team of second-guessers who derided President Bush for going into Iraq "when the real war is in Afghanistan"? Well, the real war is still in Afghanistan and the Dynamic Duo is heading for Libya.
I'm also wondering how anyone can try to sell the Libya War as preventing genocide, when the same administration sits by and does nothing when civilians are murdered in Iran, Bahrain, Yemen, Syria... I have the same question for a President who went into Bosnia but not Sudan, Rwanda, Ivory Coast...
The one thing we can all bank on is this: as soon as a President begins talking about supporting a UN-led mission- utter failure, defeat, and debacle are the result. Anyone who doubts that should read up on Bosnia and Somalia.
I guess setting up an alibi helps. Giving billions of dollars to support foreign oil drilling while you enforce a drilling embargo on your own nation must have been a ploy to say that this Libya excursion isn't a war for oil.
What happened to the endless tirade of nutjobs shouting "the President lied and people died" and then interrupting every sentence with "Halliburton!" and "Big Oil!"?
I'm all for the President doing whatever it takes to protect US interests. I'm all for deposing dictators everywhere. But if the President wants to be the third Bush term, then grow some cajones and say that's what the plan is. Don't pee down our backs and try to tell us it's raining.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 29, 2011 17:05:34 GMT -5
^^Awesome post!!! Pretty much sums it up. I'm curious to see if congress will grow some balls and kill the funding.
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Post by John Wilson on Mar 29, 2011 18:36:09 GMT -5
That's just it. They won't.
We can sit here and bash Presidents all we want to, there's no shortage of good reasons to bash every single one of them. But that's the point- the Congress was created to keep the President from thinking he is the King. Congress has failed miserably to put the needs of the citizens above their own desire to gain power or get re-elected. They are so busy using their positions to run a con game on the public that improving the lifes of the citizens is not even a thought.
It's getting time to throw some tea in the water, and I'm not talking about the Tea Party movement.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on Mar 30, 2011 8:47:54 GMT -5
That's just it. They won't. We can sit here and bash Presidents all we want to, there's no shortage of good reasons to bash every single one of them. But that's the point- the Congress was created to keep the President from thinking he is the King. Congress has failed miserably to put the needs of the citizens above their own desire to gain power or get re-elected. They are so busy using their positions to run a con game on the public that improving the lifes of the citizens is not even a thought. It's getting time to throw some tea in the water, and I'm not talking about the Tea Party movement. Totally agree. I'm not sure how to go about it though. Facebook? It'd be interesting to see how fast our 1st Amendment rights would get squashed. Oh wait, they already can: www.prisonplanet.com/obama-can-shut-down-internet-for-4-months-under-new-emergency-powers.html |
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