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Post by John Wilson on May 6, 2011 8:58:04 GMT -5
Foxnews.com says you can watch the full debate there, but when I click on the link it takes me to Fox Live. Maybe there is an airtime for the debate there if you look around.
It was a very good debate. One of the best, most substantive I've seen. It's very early in the cycle, so it was centered around real questions and answers instead of the typical talking points and personal jabs.
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Post by John Byerley on May 6, 2011 10:22:34 GMT -5
Yup Herman Cain and Paul are cool dudes. I think Cain would have a real shot.
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Post by Joey "TANTRUM" on May 6, 2011 10:27:33 GMT -5
watched another video of herman cain i like what he says
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Post by Anthony Edens on May 6, 2011 14:03:05 GMT -5
I believe Herman Cain fills in for Sean Hannity on the radio from time to time. He's is a little dry on the radio. I voted for Rand Paul, but didn't waste my vote on Ron last election because I knew our only shot at stopping Obama was voting for McCain. (I voted for Huckabee in the primary.) If Ron Paul has any real shot this time, I would gladly vote for him. I've been saying that in order to move this country back to the right, we are gonna have to elect politicians that are considered extremist, like Ron Paul.
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Post by Anthony Edens on May 6, 2011 14:08:02 GMT -5
Probably the most refreshing thing about Ron Paul and his son is that they are considered "outsiders" and don't play the whole political game. They state the problem like it is and then suggest a workable solution. Often times the solution sounds "extreme", but that is only because our country has become so Socialist.
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Post by Kirk Wickizer on May 6, 2011 14:22:09 GMT -5
I want whom ever is for the FairTax.
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Post by Chris Kaufman on May 6, 2011 17:53:29 GMT -5
Just got done watching the debates. I think Ron Paul CLEARLY killed everyone. He was the only that already has a plan and position for all the questions. All the others', like Cain, answers were of the normal political vagueness. I wasn't too impressed with Cain, not to mention he worked for the FED.  I can't wait for the rest of the people to join against Ron Paul. The biggest thing I like about him is that he doesn't focus and answer the questions with the same talking points of old. When asked about all the lightning rods of elections he simply says, and I agree, that it's not mine or the federal government's business. I haven't followed too many of these debates, but do they ever get to respond to each other as opposed to just answering questions? I feel that Paul could have smashed people numerous times if given the opportunity. |
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Post by John Wilson on May 6, 2011 17:53:34 GMT -5
I want whom ever is for the FairTax. That would be Herman Cain. |
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Post by John Wilson on May 6, 2011 17:58:45 GMT -5
Just got done watching the debates. I think Ron Paul CLEARLY killed everyone. He was the only that already has a plan and position for all the questions. All the others', like Cain, answers were the of the normal political vagueness. I wasn't too impressed with Cain. I can't wait for the rest of the people to join against Ron Paul. The biggest thing I like about him is that he doesn't focus and answer the questions with the same talking points of old. When asked about all the lightning rods of elections he simply says, and I agree, that it's not mine or the federal government's business. Best answer of the night was Ron Paul who said "Nobody is screaming...'Please Government! Pass a law! Quick! I don't want to take heroin... Make it illegal so I won't take heroin!' " (I'm paraphrasing) |
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Post by Ryan Thames on May 6, 2011 18:07:53 GMT -5
I think Paul and Cain are for the fair tax
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Post by Chris Kaufman on May 7, 2011 17:57:41 GMT -5
Trust me, agreeing with a GOP candidate is VERY hard for me on some issues, but I can put aside my "social beliefs" for the betterment of our country. I personally believe that he's our last hope to stop our country from imploding.
For example, I personally believe in healthcare for everyone, and he doesn't. This is a philosophical difference that I am willing to put aside. I'm hoping that the "bible belt" will vote with their minds and not their bibles. That's what scares me about Paul running against someone like Huckabee. Paul isn't going to get involved in the religious debate the GOP always tries to hold onto, and I really hope it doesn't bite him in the end. You could see the PA Senator (can't remember his name) trying to own that in the debate.
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Post by John Wilson on May 7, 2011 19:26:36 GMT -5
That is Rick Santorum.
Huckabee and Santorum aren't going to get much traction in my opinion. Santorum has too much political baggage and he's polarizing in an election that demands broad based appeal. Huckabee doesn't inspire and doesn't offer much, which is why he got beat in the last primary by "milquetoast McCain" which ought to have been a clear signal to him. McCain is the GOP's John Kerry.
Pawlenty screams "GOP Fanboy" and conservatives have had it up to here with the GOP machine for a long time. Whatever the Tea Party may have become, it began honestly and was driven by people who basically hate all Washington insiders of both brands.
This is the time for new blood. If the DNC does not have the gumption to admit Obama was a mistake then the nomination is his on that side. The GOP got absolutely hammered from the inside this last cycle and old party cronies were pushed out in favor of young conservatives.
I honestly feel 2012 will have two issues. The economy and new blood. I'm not a liberal, but it looks to me that liberals have been sold a bill of goods with Obama and the wind has gone out of that sail. The conservatives are very energized and that is only going to increase with the sense of urgency an election brings. I don't think it's a good time for GOP Party hacks. Young conservatives want a party reformation and it's about jobs, jobs, and jobs.
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Post by John Wilson on May 7, 2011 19:48:12 GMT -5
And you know, Chris, conservatives also want healthcare for everyone. The ideological difference is in how to pay for it and who is in control. Everyone on both sides knows the current system sucks.
Our number one problem, in my opinion, is financial solvency. If we don't get America's finances in order then all the other ideolical wish lists on both sides won't amount to squat because our country is going to implode, just as you said. It's now or never.
Read that Herman Cain bio that I posted. The man has credibility. Ron Paul's real strength is that he truly understands the con game that is the Fed and has a real desire to put a stop to the Washington Shake Down.
Let's get the country back on track and get back to work. Once everyone can breath without worrying about losing their home and how they are going to eat- then we can go back to bickering over STUPID-A$$ $**T.
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Post by Michael Wells on May 7, 2011 22:04:05 GMT -5
I hate to say it but if Ron Paul gets in, with intention on "fixing" the Fed situation, he'll be handle much like JFK.
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Post by Dan Benoit on May 7, 2011 22:26:35 GMT -5
He will die immediatly....trying to undo americas scam. Good point Mike. He definatly has all the right ideas but they will never happen....can u imagine what hes really thinking? We all know what needs to happen. "living within our means" isnt fiction. I think financing ruined this whole country. Does anyone agree? We dont need a 2013 challenger because we work at mcdonalds and we will take the 21% interest rate
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