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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:25:24 GMT -5
If you stand by and don't fight evil, the evil will just grow bigger. You really think just letting him have a bunch of rights after the things he has done is better than just killing him? How does not punishing him make violence end? His followers are willing to kill themselves for beliefs he fed their heads with. You can't reason with someone that is crazy enough to do that
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Post by Charlie Minell on May 8, 2011 20:28:43 GMT -5
But I still wonder if this story is even true. Let me ask a question Charlie, would you say the same thing if someone had done Hitler this way? If so why??? Yes Johnny, I would. I don't believe in murdering other people no mather what they have done. Not even for the worst pedophiles.. people I hate more than anything else. It's not fully comforting to just put them in jail, I know, but that's the only right thing to do by civilized peope IMO.
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Post by Charlie Minell on May 8, 2011 20:30:54 GMT -5
What is 2977 families compared to tens of thousands of families? It's time to start leading by example to stop this viscous circle. I don't mean that USA started it from the beginning.. but it's time to stop killing people without caring about human rights, because they didn't care about human rights. Did Bin Laden care about human right? I can't understand how he should be given something he showed to none of his victims. Im not following here??? No he didn't. I don't think he had the right to not follow them. I think everyone should follow them.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:30:56 GMT -5
^How is it right to allow someone like that to live??? I don't see the logic in it? Why risk putting more innocent lives at stake just for the sake of their one evil life??? Im not up for just murdering someone for no reason then you truly are like them but putting them away for crimes like they committed is not the same thing. You can't allow evil to exist and not continue doing what it was doing. If you let it live then who is to say it doesn't build up a huge force to break it out of it's imprisonment?
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:33:08 GMT -5
That is like keeping a dog with rabies as a pet and expecting it not to bite you
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:36:33 GMT -5
Putting someone to death is a tough decision for me but when it comes to people that just kill innocent people for a stupid reason, I think they deserve it. They show that they are not civilized by doing that. Another is a pedophile. I think people that harm innocent little children in a close contact type of way like a pedophile does actually deserves to be tortured. I gotta disagree with you.
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Post by Charlie Minell on May 8, 2011 20:40:22 GMT -5
^How is it right to allow someone like that to live??? I don't see the logic in it? Why risk putting more innocent lives at stake just for the sake of their one evil life??? Im not up for just murdering someone for no reason then you truly are like them but putting them away for crimes like they committed is not the same thing. You can't allow evil to exist and not continue doing what it was doing. If you let it live then who is to say it doesn't build up a huge force to break it out of it's imprisonment? I don't mean he should be a free man. I say lock him in for as long as you wish but don't murder him.
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Post by Charlie Minell on May 8, 2011 20:43:13 GMT -5
Putting someone to death is a tough decision for me but when it comes to people that just kill innocent people for a stupid reason, I think they deserve it. They show that they are not civilized by doing that. Another is a pedophile. I think people that harm innocent little children in a close contact type of way like a pedophile does actually deserves to be tortured. I gotta disagree with you. So.... the answer to get rid of uncivilized people is to be uncivilized ourselves?
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:44:04 GMT -5
How is that a punishment for what he has done to the people in the world though?? Innocent men, women, and children??? Just sitting in a cell for the crimes he committed cannot be punishment enough, how do you justify that as the punishment he deserves???
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:46:23 GMT -5
Putting someone to death is a tough decision for me but when it comes to people that just kill innocent people for a stupid reason, I think they deserve it. They show that they are not civilized by doing that. Another is a pedophile. I think people that harm innocent little children in a close contact type of way like a pedophile does actually deserves to be tortured. I gotta disagree with you. So.... the answer to get rid of uncivilized people is to be uncivilized ourselves? Osama and people of a nature like his go beyond uncivilized. They are in a league of their own called and evil tyrant who ruin peoples lives. Uncivilized is people that don't cope well with society and no they should not be gotten rid of, but people like Osama who kill innocent people for no reason should reap what they sow.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:49:02 GMT -5
I've learned from some good discussions on this board that Muslim people in general seem to be pretty peaceful and polite people. But Radicals like Osama and the ones that are filled with his radical morals are the ones that have to be dealt with because they don't see things the way the rest of society does. To them their views may seem very noble and to most of the rest of the world it is seen as evil. What is it Osama was trying to accomplish is the question you have to ask when confronting someone such as him.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:51:56 GMT -5
I respect your view on the subject Charlie and I can see where you come from with the questions you raise, but I politely disagree with it. Evil will always ruin innnocent lives if it is allowed to exist.
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Post by Ryan Thames on May 8, 2011 20:52:30 GMT -5
I have learned through this board that some Muslim's have the same views of "them" as I do.
And thus question whether Osama had anything to do with 9/11 to begin with
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:54:12 GMT -5
^well considering Osama and his followers took credit for it what do you think?
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Post by Johnny Edwards on May 8, 2011 20:54:39 GMT -5
Let me guess a far fetched conspiracy???
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