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Post by John Milne on Jun 12, 2011 20:00:34 GMT -5
No its not, and I stand by it Of course you do. You're much to ignorant to see it. Therefore I have no need to continue the discussion with you. |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 12, 2011 20:02:59 GMT -5
To continue what I was saying about my cousin that got raped, I didn't like yell at her mad that way just mad she had the baby aborted. When I explained to her she actually understood my point of view though. It's bad when things like that happen.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 12, 2011 20:06:40 GMT -5
Like I said, anyone who hasn't seen a real human fetus in person can't make and accurate decision. I mean unless they just agree with killing and innocent human?  |
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Post by John Milne on Jun 12, 2011 20:20:58 GMT -5
One doesn't need to see a human fetus in person to have an opinion on this matter Johnny. That statement has no merit.
Look, I understand you guys are passionate about this subject. However your foolish blanket statements make your arguments lack validity.
You very openly criticize those who don't share the same opinion as you. That is a very poor tool to use when trying to sway a case in your favor. It's looks very much like some of are just daring someone to oppose you and instigate arguments.
I think I'll leave this thread alone.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 12, 2011 21:16:19 GMT -5
Your side doesn't help your view either because you clearly mock those that don't see the way you do. It's all perspective. It can be seen both ways, but yes seeing and actual fetus has a lot of merit. Unless someone can't bear the reality of seeing for fear of changing their opinion. I promise a lot of peoples opinions would change if they seen a real one. It's one of those things that shocks reality into someone that it IS a person and not just a lump of tissue. Experience>opinion.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 12, 2011 21:19:38 GMT -5
It's just like war, people talk about playing war on video games and then talk about being a badass and join the military then a lot of them get really scared when faced with the reality of war. reality>opinion
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 12, 2011 21:21:05 GMT -5
Just curious John, you talk about a foolish blanket, what blanket would that be and whats your personal opinion on the matter??? I promise no backlash whatsoever from me, I am just curious to your personal opinion on the whole matter. Also your reasonings for your opinions. I didn't mean any argument by any of my post just my personal view. Seeing that real fetus made my opinion in it being a human very very strong.
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Post by John Milne on Jun 12, 2011 22:01:26 GMT -5
Johnny, I did not mock anyone. Nor am I trying to change anyone's mind on this. I personally don't care what people think on the subject, to each his own. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, it's almost always impossible to do.
The foolish blanket I speak of is when someone says (If someone supports abortion) "they lack good morals or a good clean heart"
Or that "someone needs to see a fetus to have an opinion on abortion."
Those statements are judgmental, prejudice and wrong.
I agree that seeing a fetus could have a lot of merit but it is not fundamental when forming a valid opinion.
I've stated my personal opinion on the matter. I'm for abortion.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 12, 2011 22:08:18 GMT -5
Johnny, I did not mock anyone. Nor am I trying to change anyone's mind on this. I personally don't care what people think on the subject, to each his own. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, it's almost always impossible to do. The foolish blanket I speak of is when someone says (If someone supports abortion) "they lack good morals or a good clean heart" Or that "someone needs to see a fetus to have an opinion on abortion." Those statements are judgmental, prejudice and wrong. I agree that seeing a fetus could have a lot of merit but it is not fundamental when forming a valid opinion. I've stated my personal opinion on the matter. I'm for abortion. Well you already stated what I was gonna say, you don't have to see a fetus to have an opinion on abortion, never meant that just saying like you said it really does help you have a more accurate opinion. Good to get all the facts on a big decision like that. I just can't ever even think about abortion the same after seeing that fetus. I am for it but only when for medical reasons. |
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jun 12, 2011 22:24:02 GMT -5
I'm against it. No matter the cost.
Let God do what he's gonna do.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jun 12, 2011 22:25:17 GMT -5
Tho I have never been put in a position to have to choose my baby, my wife or neither.
Being faced with the decision I may not stand as strong as I type.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 12, 2011 22:33:05 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity Ryan if your wife was raped and got pregnant, well it would suck to be in that position but I still couldn't abort the baby cause it's not the baby's fault. I would be in prison though for brutally torturing the person that raped my wife so I wouldn't be around to help make a decision.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jun 12, 2011 22:49:11 GMT -5
Did you just ask me a question?
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jun 12, 2011 22:51:26 GMT -5
Being that it wouldn't be my child I would want to give it up for adoption.
But being that it is my wifes child whether it goes up for adoption or not is up to her ultimately.
If she aborted the child. Then I would probably go my own way.
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Post by Bob Paradis on Jun 12, 2011 22:53:58 GMT -5
Johnny, I did not mock anyone. Nor am I trying to change anyone's mind on this. I personally don't care what people think on the subject, to each his own. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, it's almost always impossible to do. The foolish blanket I speak of is when someone says (If someone supports abortion) "they lack good morals or a good clean heart" Or that "someone needs to see a fetus to have an opinion on abortion." Those statements are judgmental, prejudice and wrong. I agree that seeing a fetus could have a lot of merit but it is not fundamental when forming a valid opinion. I've stated my personal opinion on the matter. I'm for abortion. Why are you for abortion John? You know a little baby is being killed. Why is that OK? Do you believe in God? I'm not starting an argument. I just don't get how you could feel that way. |
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