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Post by Andy 'wiSë™' Barker on Sept 8, 2004 12:54:48 GMT -5
If these tests happen at the 'Unified' worlds in Japan, what are everyones thoughts?
Will they change anything?
Maybe Mr.Pinkney can confirm if the tests are gonna happen?
Do you care, coz ur gonna beat them 'super tuna' [thanks Cobra] eatin' mo'fo's anyway?
Or will the monster's of roids just cover their tracks with maskin agents etc, thus all being a waste of time?
Will they test for PROPER substances ie. HGH etc or will it be Caffeine and Bananas they test for?
Or do we just SHUT UP AND PULL?
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Post by simon on Sept 8, 2004 13:58:41 GMT -5
First I would be surprised if there really is a Unified Worlds in Japan as of right now there is not, don’t get me wrong I would like to see it but Das has got to come to the table and I do not think he will, we could have a very large Endo run Worlds at that event because I believe many countries will leave Das and come to the Endo Worlds.
Next, I have discussed this drug testing a bit with Rick P and many others before and after this last EAF’s considering that event was originally slated to have drug testing done. Allegedly the 2005 EAF is supposed to have drug testing if that is true there will be the first test of how well this can be controlled.
Administering the tests themselves is not difficult, if you set your mind on finding a manner in which to pay for them, determining a fair impartial manner to do so and developing a procedure for punishment, and an appeals process could be challenging, all I can picture is a litany of complaints about how some people were unjustly deemed positive and it is an effort to prevent them from winning, without a very strong procedure and code of ethics for the testing it will make for a very messy proposition.
Considering our infancy in this process and our limited funds to pay for the top of the line tests, I think the tests will prove a bit ineffective against the possible counter measures that athletes may take to prevent themselves from testing positive.
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Post by Ryan Espey on Sept 8, 2004 14:57:02 GMT -5
Andy... currently there are no effective tests for HGH.
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Post by Paul Maiden on Sept 8, 2004 15:39:02 GMT -5
You dont have to test for HGH just winstrel,test,dianabol,nandrlone.etc. atleast if these measures were in place we would have a chance of competing on a level playing field if we only court 3 out of 100 its a start.
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Post by Vic Sargent on Sept 8, 2004 15:44:13 GMT -5
Just one thing to say about all this testing will make a difference: THE NFL.... Let me guess we all think those guys are all natural too seeing that they pass a drug screening to huh??? Can't we just admit the playing field is never truly even in any sport, there are those willing to do what ever it takes to be the best and there are those that cherish health over wealth and popularity... Just my two cents anyways..
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Post by James on Sept 8, 2004 16:07:35 GMT -5
Yes Victor, and then there are those that cheat and those that value fair play.
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Post by Jeremy Hurst on Sept 8, 2004 16:10:51 GMT -5
I take every steroid known to man. Cant you tell?
Just kidding lol
Jeremy Hurst
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Post by STEVE PHIPPS on Sept 8, 2004 17:20:14 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to the testing with mixed emotions.
1. I think the problem is small, there are only a few who are willing to pay for and use the steroids.
2. The steroids do improve their performance, and if they are willing to go that far, they most likely will be willing to go far enough to mask the steroids as well.
3. So then, we have a sport that appears to be clean, because of testing, but still has those few that use.
4. I am however in favor of the testing because I would like to see it as difficult as possible for those who use to get away with it.
5. A couple might even get caught, after all that they do, to cover up. It happened at the Olympics.
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Post by Charlie Minell on Sept 8, 2004 19:16:48 GMT -5
I agree with you totally, Steve!
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Post by STEVE PHIPPS on Sept 8, 2004 23:03:33 GMT -5
Charlie,
Thanks!
I think most armwrestlers do, because we would like the most level playing field possible.
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