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Post by michaelmeador on Aug 31, 2012 15:01:36 GMT -5
Me either.
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Post by John Byerley on Aug 31, 2012 15:05:00 GMT -5
The movie isn't Obama propaganda. =|
Its just about the furthest thing from an endorsement.
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Post by michaelmeador on Aug 31, 2012 16:02:57 GMT -5
The "Movie" made 2.2 Million Dollars the first day it was out. I find it hard to believe he wont see any of that.
Good or bad publicity? Who cares! It's still publicity.
Its not like people will actually pay attention to facts about Obama anyway.
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Post by kyledarby on Aug 31, 2012 17:24:00 GMT -5
^^^This
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Post by michaelmeador on Aug 31, 2012 23:00:27 GMT -5
The thought of Romney being president is as nauseating as Obama being reelected in my opinion. The man is as fake as it gets, his wife also.
And the whole Eastwooding thing---
Will leave me pointing my finger at a empty chair for years to come.
Any progress that could have been made was ripped from our grasp when Ron Paul was out of the race.
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Post by John Byerley on Sept 1, 2012 4:33:24 GMT -5
At some point you realize you can say something and it really won't register, so I won't bother.
Some people I'm sure will feel the heat of Obama's policies faster than others (like the many who already are under his first term) - eventually everyone will feel a little bit. Some people are already nauseous and forced to worry about their future.
I believe personally the country is on its track downward and not ALOT can change that, but we can sprint to the end, or just keep flirting with it. Me personally I'd like things to last a little bit longer.
And yes, on what the entire media is labeling an Anti Obama documentary, I'm sure he's raking it in. Like Bush raked in from Fahrenheit 9/11? And actually BAD publicity around election time is actually not a good thing for the target - that is why all you see is one negative ad after the other about one another. BAD publicity in itself actually works in politics because of how easily people are swayed by emotion.
To many people like myself, I worry about another Obama term because it will instantly effect my life, my field, my taxes, and my job security, and if obamacare is allowed to stand, can have a huge impact on how well i'm able to support my wife and the care she receives - so it goes past Nausea. And no, under ANY of the republican candidates - it would be better, in some cases small, in some cases extremely large, better than Obama for many people out there. If you think it would be the same, maybe for you it would be, at least for now. If he gets everything through he would like to in a second term, I promise you'll feel it too.
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Post by John Byerley on Sept 1, 2012 10:55:17 GMT -5
You can be a good or a bad president - intelligent or stupid - and still not want to turn America into a socialist state.
I've never been one to say it was ALL bush' fault - or its ALL obama's fault. But thats besides the point.
What matters is what they ARE able to do, able to pass, able to sneak under the table, able to pass by executive order, the supreme court judges THEY appoint, the deals made with the UN you don't hear about, the CZARS they PERSONALLY appoint, unelected officials, to act outside the law to better MANAGE parts of society, the TALKS the president wants to have with PUTIN AFTER the election - what matters is what path they want to put the country on - and limited power or not - they can do a bang up job, thats obvious.
The president has referred to BUSH, the BUSH policies, the BUSH decisions until hes blue in the face.
The past is supposed to be the past right? Do we focus now on how bad carter, nixon, clinton or bush were? Or do we focus on whats going on now? If they all sucked, does Obama get a pass now? Or can we just say, "He had no business experience, he was abandoned as a child, no he never really had a job - he had bad influences (up to and during his administration) - its Bush' fault - but hes learning! Lets give him another 4 years!"
His followers or voters can make up any excuse they want it doesn't change the fact that his record should precede his exit. Everyone dumped their hope into him, the hope was misplaced, mishandled - so yes lets all do it again!!!
This is all for not because IN ORDER TO SUPPORT HIM - and you know all public info related to his ideals his faith(s) his influences his agenda his plan for America - in order to support him you have to be OK with America possibly becoming a full on socialist state/communist state in the future? Theres no way around it. You either agree with his policies and what he wants to do, understanding its not the first time its ever happened! Looking before at how it happened where and when you can see what happens next.
And if thats the case then this goes beyond politics - you dont POLITICIZE changing the governing structure of a nation. That is what precedes war because as you can see the country is divided, not only along political lines, but along the lines of what is IDEAL for this country - the foundation or the desire to "fundamentally change the United States" (Barack Obama)
If every president before him was great or horrible doesnt change the present. Things done under the Bush and Obama presidency in terms of POLICY SPENDING and DEBT are UNPARALLED, and no point in being naive to those things.
Too many people have been naive for too long EXPECTING CORRUPT MEN to take care of them and think its gonna last forever.
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Post by John Byerley on Sept 1, 2012 10:57:09 GMT -5
People who think they agree with the BULK of the president's ISSUE stances should read the entire OR the entire outline of the healthcare act. And see how many things THE ADMINISTRATION has inserted non-healthcare related. The picture widens at that point - and the people voting for him now could still then probably care less.
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Post by kyledarby on Sept 1, 2012 13:29:38 GMT -5
He's scratching someone's back because they're scratching HIS. To think otherwise is absurd. Obama care hence the name. We can start to see a pattern if initiatives with a name attached to them but it's probably a coincidence.
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Post by michaelmeador on Sept 1, 2012 15:20:48 GMT -5
It's impossible to argue with that.
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Post by Joshua 'Turbo' Borrow on Oct 31, 2012 0:13:55 GMT -5
I watched it last night, It was a great movie, most of the information was from obamas biography. It is scary as hell when he starts talking about the nukes
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Post by Dayne Roark on Dec 10, 2015 15:27:41 GMT -5
Yep kind of looks like our America come this 2016!
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