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Simon
Sept 14, 2004 10:27:38 GMT -5
Post by James on Sept 14, 2004 10:27:38 GMT -5
You are my hero.
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Simon
Sept 14, 2004 11:44:08 GMT -5
Post by simon on Sept 14, 2004 11:44:08 GMT -5
Here is my reply post to Heathers ramblings.
I won’t speak for James his does quite well by himself.
If you were following my demand for you to come out then you should have read it well enough to put your full name and you should not then have gone back and signed CB to your next post, come on you were caught nothing is going to change that.
Karen made it very clear to James that she controls all of the id’s and she knows every person that is behind these false names so that means she was complicit in allowing you to use that name, plain and simple, sorry you exposed her, there is no way to undo that now.
I have never condoned anyone ever using a fake name out here, as a matter of fact to my knowledge I was one of the first people to ever speak out against the alias’s 4 years ago. The big difference Heather is that Karen swore that she cleaned this board up and that she was not allowing anonymous people to post on this board any longer and again that she knew the identity of every person out here yet for some strange reason you got to continue to hide behind that name, gee does it have anything to do with the fact that you are 20 year friends and you are obviously willing to do anything for her including coming on here and perjuring yourself, not to mention the damage you cowardly inflicted on many armwrestlers at the behest of the AAA.
First and foremost all of your chest puffing on here is purely because you guys screwed up and proved me right and I am sure Karen is none too happy about it. My point regarding the anonymous poster is now and has always been that several of the less than forthright people on this board were nothing but shills or mouth pieces for the AAA, it makes perfect sense, you yourself claim how tight you are with Karen, you signed the Charlie Brown post Heather because you could not keep track of who you were at the moment, CB has always been a staunch supporter of the AAA and a basher of anyone that is not, and CB has always proven to be very knowledgeable about the sport and the AAA as though they have direct contact with Karen herself. Considering that Karen has made it very clear that she is fully aware of each and every person that posts on this board that means she knowingly allowed you to have two log on ID’s to perpetuate her agenda and subsequently that the two of you conspired to create and use that persona to manipulate the perceptions of the other armwrestlers into believing that CB was an independent person that supported the AAA when in fact it was nothing more than a fraudulent proxy for the AAA to manufacture non existent support for their actions.
The two of you have intentionally engaged in the deception and malicious deceit of the armwrestlers and subsequently you have proven the allegations that the AAA is actively involved in the control of the armwrestlers by what ever means they can, purely in order to help maintain control. Most importantly it has proven that the AAA and its core supporters cannot be trusted. Despite all of your nonsense on your post the armwrestlers of the world will know now for a fact of your devious and less than honorable tactics, any armwrestler with a brain and the where with all to be their own person should take into deep consideration whether or not a group such as this should be given their support.
Heather plain and simple I have nothing personal to gain from the exposure of the activities that the AAA has engaged in. I don’t operate an armwrestling organization so them being hurt does not benefit me personally one iota, frankly I would have been thrilled if the AAA had proven to be all the wondrous things it has claimed to be, that would have meant great armwrestling opportunities for the armwrestlers with no intent by the organization to harm or take advantage of them, but time and time again they have proven to the contrary. You claim you know what my agenda is so……you tell me what do you think it is? You claim that “we are tired of what you are doing” who is that exactly it sure is not the majority of the armwrestlers I know of including ones in the AAA’s own backyard, so one must conclude that when you say “we” you mean the AAA and its court, please forgive us humble peasants for offending the elitist royal family of armwrestling, because obviously to your group, you are the only ones that matter.
I am simply tired of seeing this sport being weighed down by those that wish to control it at any cost, I am tired of seeing innocent people getting pushed around and hurt, I care a great deal for this sport and the real armwrestlers. I am only here in support of trying to give them a quality environment in which to partake of this great sport and the opportunity to be a part of what this sport could become, without having to submit to the whims of a dictatorship. That is what I am all about.
Heather I will still send you a private email as I indicated I would, frankly prior to this incident I thought a great deal more of you Heather, we have had brief and pleasant conversations you and I, I have reached out to you to wish you a safe trip when you were set for travel to a world event, so in all candor I really never would have suspected that you would stoop to being this corrupt.
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Simon
Sept 14, 2004 13:23:56 GMT -5
Post by James on Sept 14, 2004 13:23:56 GMT -5
It was perfect. I was in tears. It was all so touching.
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Simon
Sept 14, 2004 14:04:42 GMT -5
Post by Travis Bagent on Sept 14, 2004 14:04:42 GMT -5
It's not Heather, Tullier, or even the rest of those supporters of the AAA....... IT"S KAREN BEAN!!!!!!!
She is the worst thing that has ever happened to this SPORT...... SHE LIES EVERYDAY to someone regarding the AAA.........
A breif list of her tactics!!!!!!!
Claims AAA is a Democracy, yet when Dave Patton follows the plan and gets new rules pasted, she decides she doesn't like them and doesn't use them.... Sorry Dave this will be the last time I use your NAME.....
Totally sabotages the 154lb and 171lb SUPERMATCH, that was Santioned AAA. "WHAT WAS I THINKING" by lying to Chad Silvers, and Matt Harris.... Does not send out FLIERS that she was prepaid for $150.00..... Then she voids contract 10 days before event...
Calls Jacob Abbott and tries to convince him not to let me pull in WASHINGTON at SAL's event.... WOW
Gets Allen Hester kicked off the LA team for posting on this Board.... And almost gets her son Tulliers ASS KICKED by Hester in the process...
Get poor Heather Mcsherry so worked up that she forgets who she's doesn't know who she is... By the way Heather I thought we were tighter then that....
Ruines the AAA National to the point that she now has NOVICE CLASSES.........
She GOT TO GO, seriosly
"THAT ***** can't be serious" Sorry it slipped
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Simon
Sept 14, 2004 14:09:45 GMT -5
Post by brzenk on Sept 14, 2004 14:09:45 GMT -5
You guy’s really need to settle down…you got nothing…nothing I tell YOU.. No facts… give them a day or two, the real truth has yet to be told …spin , spin…spin. Simon…nothing new for you. Just wish John Wilson was still around to give us his thoughts on the matter.
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Simon
Sept 14, 2004 14:18:42 GMT -5
Post by Travis Bagent on Sept 14, 2004 14:18:42 GMT -5
John tell us some of your AAA STORY'S
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Simon
Sept 14, 2004 14:24:51 GMT -5
Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Sept 14, 2004 14:24:51 GMT -5
Travis, John is to good of guy to do that. LOL LOL Come on John, PLEASE tell us a story!!!!!!!! LOL LOL
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Simon
Sept 14, 2004 15:08:04 GMT -5
Post by brzenk on Sept 14, 2004 15:08:04 GMT -5
It’s never officially them… Nothing comes directly from them… So, of course I don’t have any first hand dealings with them. There choice… And I am fine with that. Let’s face it they run some good amateur events. But you are right Travis they are not capable of promoting anything but there own name. It is time for something a bit more than business as usual. Ok one story for you Christian.
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Simon
Sept 14, 2004 16:05:20 GMT -5
Post by simon on Sept 14, 2004 16:05:20 GMT -5
Only the AAA can be in the act of defending the fact that there are not anonymous posters doing dirty work for them on their message board and accidentally bust themselves at the same time, then actually think they can get away with denying it, simply unbelievable.
John tell us the story about how the AAA minions accused you of being afraid of David Randall and Ron Bath because you did not go to their nationals, no no how about the one where the AAA minions told the greatest armwrestler in the history of the sport that they did not want him at their events, yeah that's a good one.
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Simon
Sept 15, 2004 10:20:10 GMT -5
Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Sept 15, 2004 10:20:10 GMT -5
I will not enter this on going "thing " with the La. guys and Allen and others. But I'm a bit curious about the anon posters. I am surprised by Heather though.
I have a question to those that might remember the postings on the AAA board AFTER the 2002 Harley Pull, where there was ALOT of bashing of Mike Bowling and the refereeing. Being that there were people from the AAA there, does anyone remember who was doing the bashing? Specifically the Anons?
Just curious, since that was one hell of a successfull tournament with NO AFFLIATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Simon
Sept 15, 2004 13:26:43 GMT -5
Post by Vic Sargent on Sept 15, 2004 13:26:43 GMT -5
Hey Christian you want a good story about the AAA and how they gave up on certain areas of the country??? I have a good one for you.. Now this is first hand and exactly how it happened.. When Al and Lia Virelli retired as state directors of the AAA they handed it off to me... At the time I thought it was a great honor and immediately fired off an e-mail to the Beans to introduce myself.. Weeks went by without a word, so in my naturally sarcastic way I went on the AAA board and pretty much called them out and asked them infront of the whole board why they weren't replying to my e-mails... I instantly came under attack by numerous "anons", asking my why I'm calling them out on the board and making this a public matter.. It really got out of control... Finally I got an e-mail from Frank saying he must of missed the e-mails or they were away. We communicated back and forth for a couple of days and all of a sudden I received an e-mail from Karen asking who I was, why I felt I was qualified and why she hadn't heard from the Virellis prior to this.. So I answered all the questions regarding who I was and what I intended on doing and referred her to Al and Lia as far as why they retired.. I didn't hear back again for weeks( NOW IF YOU THINK I'M BULL@#$%ING JUST ASK CHRIS GANGI he was there the whole time) So anyways I went on the AAA board again to find out why I was getting no response and again I was assaulted by "anons".. This is when I realized how controling Karen can be, I received an e-mail giving me her # and asking me to call her. OK so I did.. I was almost immediately greeted with "I (meaning Karen) won't accept you as the new state director until I officially hear from Al and Lia and discuss with them their decision.. I called Al & Lia and told them about the call and they said they would call her and explain to her.. I was promised several times by Lia that it had been done and so I called Karen to find out what else I needed to do to be officially listed as the state director and low and behold I was blown off again telling me she hadn't heard from the Virellis and until she did they where going to stay listed as the state director.. I told the Virellis and they even went as far as writing Karen but it was to no avail. Why you ask!! I have my opinion. I think it was because she really didn't know me and didn't want a state director that she couldn't control,especially in an area of the country that they were loosing to the USAA.. SO there it is Christian a story just for you!!! Well not really a story cause this one is100% fact... Damn are others going to be able to read this thing Your Brother in Arms
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Simon
Sept 15, 2004 13:42:54 GMT -5
Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Sept 15, 2004 13:42:54 GMT -5
When I first started armwrestling, the Northeast was ALL AAA. How many AAA Nats were up here? 91 sitdowns in Albany, N.Y. ( 2 and out BABY!!! ), there was another Nats in Albany, I don't remember the year, 94 in Windsor Lockes, CT., I believe there was 1 in Taunton, Mass. I'm sure Bill Cox would know better them me. Which S##KS!
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Simon
Sept 15, 2004 13:52:51 GMT -5
Post by Vic Sargent on Sept 15, 2004 13:52:51 GMT -5
Your right there WERE alot of AAA tournaments but they dropped tremendously after 99.. Martel got out of it in NH. and there wasn't anything going on in MA by then Al and Lia were really the only ones keeping the AAA alive in the Northeast and I had all intentions of keeping it alive also until I got the run around from the Beans.. My first tournament was an IAF tourney and was actually a rather large one at that...
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Simon
Sept 15, 2004 23:22:55 GMT -5
Post by Bill Cox on Sept 15, 2004 23:22:55 GMT -5
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