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Post by Bobby Sholan on Jun 4, 2014 10:13:25 GMT -5
Where does everyone get their brackets ? Anyone have a PDF or one in an email they can send me , or maybe even in the mail ? Having a hard time finding a usable one Thanks
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Post by James Worke on Jun 4, 2014 10:34:17 GMT -5
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Post by Andrew Grant on Jun 4, 2014 10:51:59 GMT -5
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Post by Bobby Sholan on Jun 4, 2014 11:19:07 GMT -5
I like this format but how many spots do you get it for without knowing how many entries there will be ?
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Post by James Worke on Jun 4, 2014 12:35:35 GMT -5
All ive seen got one of each, made copies of them and put in expandable folder so theyre organized and ready for any size class.
Theres also a couple different bracket programs you can use. Not sure where you find them. Im thinkin corey miller maybe. But i know jeff janes used a program for the brackets at a previous tournament.
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Post by Bobby Sholan on Jun 4, 2014 12:46:03 GMT -5
I'm just looking for something easy for someone not framiliar with armwrestling to follow and be able understand for a small tournament
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Post by John Wilson on Jun 4, 2014 13:52:46 GMT -5
My advice is to print some out, populate the sheet, and do a dry run a few times to get familiar with it. Jacking up the brackets during an event is easy enough to do when people don't report to the scorer's table after the match. You don't want to be struggling with learning brackets for the first time on top of the normal confusion during an event.
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Post by Bob Brown on Jun 4, 2014 14:04:37 GMT -5
If you learn how to use the brackets. You only need an 8, 16, 32 or 64 man bracket. You can run any number of pullers on one of them.
You could actually just use the 64 man bracket for everything as long as you have less than 64 entries.
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Post by Bob Brown on Jun 4, 2014 14:09:59 GMT -5
printyourbrackets.com/pdfbrackets/32teamDoubleseeded.pdfFor example the above is a 32 man bracket. It can handle ANY number of pullers less than 32. When entering the names use the numbers on the left side to place them. Once you enter all the names, slide the names to the right that dont have a match. Your ready to go.
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Post by Bobby Sholan on Jun 4, 2014 14:11:56 GMT -5
Thanks guys ! I'm somewhat framiliar with the brackets from pulling but will have others helping that are green , I think the ones posted in the link will be as easy to understand as I'm going to find
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Post by Leonard Harkless on Jun 4, 2014 16:16:05 GMT -5
Thanks guys ! I'm somewhat framiliar with the brackets from pulling but will have others helping that are green , I think the ones posted in the link will be as easy to understand as I'm going to find All brackets work off a principle of 8, for instance if you have 6 on a bracket....you give 2 of those 6 a bye, therefor having 2 sets of matches. 4 winners go on(2 who won their match and the 2 who won by getting a bye) and 2 would drop to the B side. Where it gets weird if you have one over any number that is a multiple of 8 so the 9, 17, 33 and 65 are the worst with everyone getting a bye to the second round except for 2 who pull for the right to go to the second round. I notice that even the NCAA Basketball bracket had 68 teams so they had 4 games on the first round and everyone else went to the second round which then after the first 4 games had 64.
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Post by Bobby Sholan on Jun 5, 2014 2:46:52 GMT -5
Ok...I thought I got it , now I'm confused ! Lol
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Post by Eddie Hines on Jun 5, 2014 9:40:42 GMT -5
I too was a bit confused when I first heard Leonard talk about brackets and the buys and getting the numbers even and such. I didn't understand why so many buys were in the 1st round. It WAS a bit confusing. The brackets I used when I first started hosting tourneys in 2012 were fairly simple, but didn't account for the buys. And they weren't easy to use for the inexperienced lady I had calling the brackets at my 2013 event. Then I found brackets online that did all that. AND made it so easy. They have individual bracket sheets for any number of competitors (or teams) from 3-32 per class. It accommodates all needed buys in the 1st round and tells you exactly where to put the losers name on the B side so you don't have repeat matchups until the finals round. I printed off enough copies of each bracket to match the number of weight classes offered at the tournament. Ex: 10 Amateur classes(5ea R&L) + 10 Open classes (5ea R&L) + 4 Ladies classes (2ea R&L) = 24 classes. I printed off 24 of each bracket sheet and then, after each tourney I only have to replace the ones I used. By far the simplest bracket sheets I have found. www.crowsdarts.com/brackets/tourn.html
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Post by Bob Brown on Jun 5, 2014 10:48:33 GMT -5
Let me try to explain. A perfect bracket is either 2,4,8,16,32,64,128. There are NO byes. For ex. If you had 16 pullers, after the 1st rd, you have 8, then 4, then 2, then 1....Perfect NO BYES Now if you have any other number, you need to give the appropriate number of BYES so that in the 2nd rd you are on a "perfect" bracket. For ex. If you had 17 pullers. You pull 1 match(s). You now have 16 on 'A' side. Perfect ............................12.........................4...................................8 Perfect ............................28..........................12..................................16 Perfect The Brackets from www.printyourbrackets.com/ Shows where to place names and in what order to run the bracket. IMO, they are the easiest. YOU NEED TO PICK 'DOUBLE ELIM WITH SEEDING' Good Luck.
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Post by Bob Brown on Jun 5, 2014 10:55:24 GMT -5
If you know how to use Brackets. You would only want to walk around with a 16 and 32 man bracket. Possibly a 64, if you think you will get more than 32 entries in one class.
Of course for WAL Vegas we will need 128 brackets. WOW
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