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Post by Joyce King on Oct 15, 2004 13:36:02 GMT -5
Just wondering? If ladies left was offered at more tournaments do you think the number of competitors would increase? I for one would like to see this happen as it is the best form of training for us. P.S. Could start by having open class only for the left and leave the right with both classes.
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Post by James on Oct 15, 2004 15:08:18 GMT -5
I agree Joyce. I have always said that the classes should be offered. If there isn't enough participation, then you combine them.  |
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Post by Steven Lareau on Oct 15, 2004 15:43:30 GMT -5
I agree 100%. I like to pull left arm instead right arm any time (thats just me though). I don't know if it would help the ladies class grow but I don't think it would hurt. I say go for it! ;D
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Post by Bill Cox on Oct 15, 2004 16:08:51 GMT -5
Hi Joyce. Hi & welcome to the Board. Is has been awhile. Say Hi to your husband for me. Maybe I will see you at the Ottawa tournament if you are going. Bill & Gerry.  |
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Post by Josh Shotgun Stark on Oct 15, 2004 17:59:32 GMT -5
I have been offering ladies left hand at my tournaments, but it still seems like I only get a few ladies anyway. I have 2 classes that I offer my ladies for both right & left. I hope to see more women compete as I want to continue to offer these 2 classes. There needs to be a larger crowd of women at least trying to compete as the mens classes usally hold their own. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to draw more ladies for tournaments??? Please feel free to post ladies, as we need some ideas. I would try almost anything to attract more ladies.
Josh
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Post by gambit on Oct 15, 2004 18:10:34 GMT -5
I think the reluctants know that if they are awarding trophies and only one or two people sign up for a class that places up to third, or higher, there would be a waste of money on the trophy itself. This could be why there aren't more events with ladies left. (Maybe I am wrong) Just thinking aloud.  I agree, it would be awesome to have more classes for the ladies. I am in support of it. |
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Post by Bill Collins on Oct 15, 2004 19:53:15 GMT -5
Hello Joyce,
Being a promoter and a host to several events, we work with budgets, it’s hard enough to keep the ladies right hand, let alone a left hand class. Allen is correct it becomes a money issue. The cost of a trophy is minimal; when you start adding prize money, a left hand class probably won’t happen or won’t happen very often.
Unless more women pullers get on board a left hand class will probably be awards only. I’ve done an entry pay out 60/30/10 which attracted a few more woman than usual but nothing to brag about. At all of my events the ladies entry is 2/3 less than the men’s entry, hoping more ladies will sign up. If anybody has suggestion I would love to try them.
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Post by Tony Carpenter on Oct 16, 2004 0:28:33 GMT -5
go for it , you cant beat left handed armwrestling . Can't hurt, heck there are bound to be left handed girls somewhere |
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Post by Vic Sargent on Oct 16, 2004 8:04:29 GMT -5
Well I've run tournaments and helped run them and I wish there were more women period.. Not just left but right also... As Bill stated the cost to hold the extra classes are minimal cause worst case is you have a few extra trophies left over, which can be easily used for another tournament.
I think the biggest reason they are not offered is the fact that when a sponsor or potential sponsor sees the empty classes they interpret that as a lack of interest in the sport.. And as we all know perception is everything to sponsors.. If they feel they are not going to get a bang for their buck they just won't help..
I think what will eventually have to happen is that bigger tournaments will need to start pre-registering armwrestlers (not necessarily for their specific weight class) but just to get an attendance list to put infront of sponsors prior to the event. In doing this both the promoter of the event and the sponsors for that event will know what to expect, making it easier for all.
But at the same token the promoters should be actively recruiting people to come to their tournament and to keep everyone informed as to who is already affirmed..
If things like this get done I honestly think there would be better turnouts and more sponsors, all in which allows the promoter to but more money on the table for the pullers. And ultimately isn't that we all really want?? Some kind of pay for all our efforts and training?? Plus let's be honest if there was money on the table at more events wouldn't the tournaments be bigger?? and don't we all pull just a little harder knowing there's something other than a trophy waiting for us at the end of the day??
Just some thoughts...
Your Brother in Arms
Vic
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Post by Josh Shotgun Stark on Oct 18, 2004 13:47:50 GMT -5
I agree with the sponsor fact but reality says that they need something big back from their investment. I wish our efforts were more benefitional than they are but hey, until that Big Sponsor is here we do what we can for each other so in turn we would All still benefit in one form or another. Money is great, but these local tournaments are used to calibrate your own skill or what have you right? I mean until the cash comes in these local tournaments are all we have to showcase our own talents right? My 2 cents now wheres my change?  ? |
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Post by Pete & Tim on Oct 18, 2004 16:23:44 GMT -5
I have to agree with one thing you guys are talking about. The Ladies need more respect in general. As far as pulling for the money, and whether or not there should be more money thrown into a "local tournament", I can't agree with any of that. I do think that you do pull a little harder if there is a chance at getting money instead of a trophy, but, I don't think any of us are really into this sport for some kind of compensation for all the training and hard work we put in.
Lesson One: Daniel San ( vic ),
If this were the case with our sport, then maybe we would be considered "Professional Armwrestlers" instead of "Weekend Warriors"!!!
You could pick up a Pool Stick and go out on tour after a few years of training and get recognition alot faster as a professional pool player, then you would a professional armwrestler.
Lesson Two: Grasshopper,
Armwrestling, as a whole, is not a profitable sport. Promoting, competing or hosting an event, non of these could you make a living off of. How many people do you know of make a living at this? I will answer that for you.......
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That is just my opinion.
Next lesson young squire will be given to you on Sunday.
Till then......
CLASS DISMISSED!!!
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Post by Vic Sargent on Oct 18, 2004 18:01:15 GMT -5
You hurt my feelings 
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