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Post by enginterzi on Dec 20, 2004 9:40:24 GMT -5
also being able to go to strap with rustam doesnt sound scary to me.but i heard that it took very quick rustam to beat ivanov,very scary:).
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Post by Jonas Sundling on Dec 20, 2004 13:54:22 GMT -5
Engin are u saying Kiril is wrong?
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Post by Charlie Minell on Dec 20, 2004 13:59:11 GMT -5
why not organising a match between i and him lefty?we can bet money?as much as you want! 78kg category?deal?im not too far from there,but i want a fair and good ref. You and Ivanov with left? Sure, I wanna bet! Engin, you wrote this: "of course that i understand that Kiril as a Bulgarian,and you as being a ref of that event couldnt have to express your thoughts in a different way" Engin, do you think that Kiril says things about Tzvetan that isn't true because Tzvetans is from the same country as him? That would be the same thing as if I wrote lies about Andreas or Sharon because they are from Sweden. I know Kiril, and he is not like that at all. |
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 20, 2004 14:23:47 GMT -5
yes i say that he says things because of the way that he looks at subject.about being liar,its what you brought to subject not me.its very normal a person to judge things from his side,its not being liar.so dont put your words unto my mouth.
yes Jonas i say he is wrong.my friends told me that(they are not Bulgarian,neither Ukranian),Gashevski was too high on the grip and the ref didnt let Rustam to start as he always does.
Charlie,im sure about betting.just him and i,anywhere,after january,could be in february,78kg as he just competed.i bet a thousand dollars just as a start.im expecting you to raise the amount,i said a thousand because i dont want you change your mind if i raise the amount.im totally sure that you WILL NOT make a back step.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 20, 2004 14:28:28 GMT -5
yes i say that he says things because of the way that he looks at subject.about being liar,its what you brought to subject not me.its very normal a person to judge things from his side,its not being liar.so dont put your words unto my mouth.
yes Jonas i say he is wrong.my friends told me that(they are not Bulgarian,neither Ukranian),Gashevski was too high on the grip and the ref didnt let Rustam to start as he always does.
Charlie,im sure about betting.just him and i,anywhere,after january,could be in february,78kg as he just competed.i bet a thousand dollars just as a start.im expecting you to raise the amount,i said a thousand because i dont want you change your mind if i raise the amount.im totally sure that you WILL NOT make a back step.
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Post by Charlie Minell on Dec 20, 2004 15:11:51 GMT -5
I did not put those words into your mouth, but for me a person is a liar if he doesn't say the truth. I might have been wrong but I thought you meant that he didn't say the truth because he is from Bulgaria, as Tzvetan.
About your match with LEFT arm with Miroslav Ivanov.
I bet 1000 dollars on Miroslav only if both of you are fresh and there are no problems with the referee.
It wouldn't be right if any of you just had a 5 minute match before this match that we wanna bet on.
I hope we can keep this on a friendly level, Engin. I bet on Ivanov because I know he is a fantastic left handed puller.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 20, 2004 15:16:15 GMT -5
a man person may say things different than truth by having emotional look.i never said liar,its the word that u used.also a person may not say the truth by knowing something wrong.u must be old enough to know the difference.
before you thought about something about what i mean,can u please ask me to make it clear?because i dont like to be understood wrong because you understand me wrong.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 20, 2004 15:18:29 GMT -5
about betting,im ready with left hand.and in a very friendly way.a thousand dollars in golden arm as a special match in 78kg category.deal?
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Post by Kiril Bogdanski on Dec 20, 2004 15:29:43 GMT -5
Hello Engin,
I am a HUGE fan of the Bulgarian` s armwrestling, and I love the team. I love them when they are on the top. I love them when they are down. Everyone has good and bad days.
Did I say that Miroslav is stronger than you are? Or did I say he could win against you?
I said that Miroslav was the only one who scared Babayev with the left. Have you seeing Babayev to make the sign of the cross before a match lately?
He didn’t do it against Tzvetan with the right. But when they slipped with Miroslav, he did.
I said that Yesterday Miroslav could pin Matskevitch in every match, no matter if Matskevitch was fresh or not. I didn’t say Miroslav could win 2002 against Matskevitch. I didn’t say Miroslav could win against Matskevitch few months ago. I said at that tourney! Matskevitch had a bad day. I am sure he is a great champion, but as I said everyone has good and bad days.
You want to bet money? I am not the man. 1st I don’t have the money. 2nd you are a great armwrestler and I don’t want to lose the money I don’t have. But that’s Assen`s e-mail asenhdj@mail.com
he may take the bet.
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Post by Jonas Sundling on Dec 20, 2004 15:29:51 GMT -5
Im just thinking there is often more than one truth.. Thats cuz we are not talking truth most of the time we are just guessing.
In every tournament there are a few bad setups before the go sometimes its cuz one of the puller dont complain enough and sometimes there is just a bad ref. I hardly ever seen a ref from the same country give a puller from the same county any favours, more often have i seen the opposit. Why would a ref risk getting a bad name cuz of one match. Im not saying it wassent so in this case cuz i wasent there, but it do happen and thats just part of the game i guess.
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Post by Charlie Minell on Dec 20, 2004 15:31:41 GMT -5
Now you are the one putting words into my mouth. I haven't said that you used the word liar. I used the word liar because I thought it was the same thing in that situation.
I don't like to be misunderstood either, Engin. But that's life... it happens all the time. I have accepted that a long time ago.
If you can get Ivanov to Golden Arm, then I will ask Holger to fix some kind of special match with you two.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 20, 2004 15:31:50 GMT -5
i totally agree with you Jonas,and also thank you for taking things from positive side!
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 20, 2004 15:33:38 GMT -5
so Charlie,didnt you write that it would be same like you write lies??
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 20, 2004 15:35:45 GMT -5
and when we dont understand something,esspecially if its not about ourselves,and we make a judgement without understanding what the point was,and dont even ask what this person really meant.do we need to apoligise in this life??
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Post by Charlie Minell on Dec 20, 2004 15:36:47 GMT -5
Yes I did.
I quote myself:
"for me a person is a liar if he doesn't say the truth. I might have been wrong but I thought you meant that he didn't say the truth because he is from Bulgaria, as Tzvetan."
Once again... "I might have been wrong".
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