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Post by enginterzi on Dec 21, 2004 9:51:56 GMT -5
so you thought that ppl may have broken noses because you compared them with the ppl who s around you,agree with you because of your money.i believe that Jesus was created by GOD ,was sent to us to tell us what GOD wanted us to know.i dont believe that he s lord,neither my savior.GOD s my savior.
so as you read my answer s no,so conversation s not over??
there s something that some of you need to realise.you think that its wrong me to take Jesus as i believe in him,but also realise that the way that you take him is wrong to me too.so let us believe in him in the way that we believe.
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Post by Chris Coletti on Dec 21, 2004 10:12:20 GMT -5
That is fine Engin, like I said I was not embarking on this journey with you out of respect to you as a human and I think as most Christians do that in time Jesus will touch your heart and you too will be born again.
Yes Engin people kiss my butt everyday and I either tell them to stop or I completely ignore them. I have no room in my life for that kind of garbage. I am sure that Pilate had the same people around him in the crowd. Of course upon reflection many of them were following because of fear and that would not be the case with you..I..or Shaq.
Ok I did not understand your last post so please forgive me. Did you say you wanted this topic to end or to continue? If you want it to end then great If not then one more question...What is the punishment for having false Gods in the Muslim faith or better yet to claim you yourself are a God?
P.S. My apology to Chris M for continuing in this thread but I am being led by Jesus and when he leads I blindly follow.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Dec 21, 2004 10:53:41 GMT -5
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Post by Mike West on Dec 21, 2004 11:53:58 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 21, 2004 12:12:07 GMT -5
your questions are out of topic and sound like it will start another trouble on this board.i dont need any temptation,so dont let devil to use u to argue again.
i just cant understand your purpose to use ur ass kissers as an example in this subject.
i hope that you will open your eyes and your heart will be touched by truth:).
and yes,i forgive you.
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Post by Chris Coletti on Dec 21, 2004 13:42:16 GMT -5
Engin, I am 100% sure. Without a doubt 100% that Satan is at no time influencing anything in my post. My questions are based on the threads which were implemented by you and Ryan and what prompted the beginning of my own thought process which I related on the AAA board. This is also in response to this thread which you started accusing me of comparing you to Pontius Pilate. My question in clear terms would be this. If A Jewish man was in your country (Or any Muslim based country) and he was not only claiming to be the son of God but he was performing what was thought of as magic tricks and saying they were miracles and he also was getting people to follow him and worship everything he said and did what would be his punishment? If you were in a position of power over this Jew and he was taking Muslim followers and converting him into believing he was the son of God how would you stop him? My contention is this: Any man (Or woman) who believes that Jesus walked the Earth but was not the Son of God also believes he was a liar and a scammer and he deserved to be stopped and punished before he did anymore damage to their "Correct" version of the Bible and prophesies of when the true Messiah would come. My question as simple as I can make it is this. What do you think his punishment should have been, given the obvious crimes you believe he committed? You admit he was here but think he lied to us who followed Him. What would you have done if you had the power? You don’t have to answer this but please reflect upon it and understand my post. Thank you for forgiving me. This post is not inspired by me so I will not need forgiveness but I am sure if you ask the One who is inspiring me he will also forgive you. By the way if you were inferring that by posting something on that board I would be commenting behind your back you could not be more wrong. That board just like this one is easily read and as far as I know there are no passwords or restrictions to get to it and read it. The boards address is on the www.armsport.com site. |
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 21, 2004 13:56:15 GMT -5
Chris,
i made a deal with Ryan to stop about this subject.because it s harming the peace.what you are doing now s creating new things which s not work of GOD for sure.
you used my name in your topic and its very clear the way that you used
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you asked me to forgive you and i did.im cutting this conversation here.
and never accuse me to calling Jesus as liar.i think that the liar s who wrote that he said those things.if you have any personal problem with me you know how to reach me.but i swear to GOD that i pray to meet you somewhere alone.so in this case you can tell me all you need to say and i answer you in the way that you will understand.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 21, 2004 14:00:36 GMT -5
you dont understand but still talk about what you dont know.
we Muslims do not believe that Jesus ever said that he was son of god.but we believe that ppl changed the words.it was easier to discuss with Ryan because at least he had knowledge about religions.
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Post by Chris Coletti on Dec 21, 2004 14:04:07 GMT -5
Engin,
The hardness in your heart and the anger in your last post is not from God. I pray that you will find the peace you need at this time. The peace can and will come from knowing and welcoming Jesus into your heart. There will be a day where you will agree with me but until then we can agree to disagree. Cutting the conversation here is acceptable. I do consider you a friend and when we meet I will try and counsel with you more than engage you physically.
P.S. It is ironic but your post to me a few weeks ago is what made me realise that I was on the wrong path (Again) and had to go back to what I believe. You got me back to Church and may God bless you for that.
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 21, 2004 14:09:43 GMT -5
i meant to say i will use my emotions to help my poor english but i guess the voice that u follow just brings you to same point:)
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Post by Omer Bennurkan on Dec 21, 2004 14:26:05 GMT -5
engin,please,you are smart enough to not to fall in this temptations.please,you have knowledge and intelligence to reach your goals without getting involved with all these.
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Post by Chris Coletti on Dec 21, 2004 14:41:48 GMT -5
Thank You Omer,
Engin...Please hold no hard feelings I truly do you respect you as a human being with a good heart.
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Post by Omer Bennurkan on Dec 21, 2004 14:46:43 GMT -5
no thanks tome chris!!! i ment with it that he shouldnt argue nor discuss anything with you all cause you wont understand it anyways.by the way we pray for you guys also to see the truth ;)how did that sound?  |
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Post by enginterzi on Dec 21, 2004 14:53:34 GMT -5
the best thing to do is just not to discuss about religion at all.and let our opinions to directly to the face.
i have no harm feelings about you Chris.but please dont go any further.just forget about it.we are cool from my side,is it ok now?
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Post by Chris Coletti on Dec 21, 2004 14:53:46 GMT -5
I can always use prayer  Of course even if you don't address Him Jesus will still hear you. And yes, I thank you for reading the posts. I feel by reading these I am wittnessing and being blessed. Also if one person says hmmmm I have done a good thing. So thank you for reading. God Bless You. Praise Jesus. |
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