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Post by Joe Bacca on Dec 30, 2004 0:08:59 GMT -5
Dave on the contrary, I am very open minded to change... the question should be directed towards those who resist change. Jim all I can say to you at this time is... "BIG boys do draw in attention, but BIG MOUTHS draw even more attention!"  |
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Post by Kevin Schneider on Dec 30, 2004 3:55:56 GMT -5
I agree with Jim , everyone likes to see the big boys(and girls). I respect all armwrestlers , no matter what size. Next time having some of the other weight classes would be great. Dave - great job. Jim , one more thing I agree with you on , you are not a big guy !!!!!!!!!! You know I love ya.
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Post by Jim Wagner on Dec 30, 2004 10:26:17 GMT -5
Jim all I can say to you at this time is... "BIG boys do draw in attention, but BIG MOUTHS draw even more attention!" Yes Harry, we can all see that. I usually mind my own biz and try to keep only positive, but felt pretty strongly about this. If you are offended I'm sorry, but " beggers cant be choosers" To try to ask for more weight classes or air time when we finally cleared the first hurdle is not right. Lets applaud the fact we got anything before we think we understand and can critiqe their efforts. Please any more between us lets PM. I dont want to do this anymore publicly. I will start on Kevin though. Kevin I hope you feel good, I cried my eyes out when you said im not a big boy. I want cleaning lady arms like you  |
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Post by Jim Wagner on Dec 30, 2004 10:27:18 GMT -5
Jim all I can say to you at this time is... "BIG boys do draw in attention, but BIG MOUTHS draw even more attention!" Yes Harry, we can all see that. I usually mind my own biz and try to keep only positive, but felt pretty strongly about this. If you are offended I'm sorry, but " beggers cant be choosers" To try to ask for more weight classes or air time when we finally cleared the first hurdle is not right. Lets applaud the fact we got anything before we think we understand and can critiqe their efforts. Please any more between us lets PM. I dont want to do this anymore publicly. I will start on Kevin though. Kevin I hope you feel good, I cried my eyes out when you said im not a big boy. I want cleaning lady arms like you |
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Post by gambit on Dec 30, 2004 11:25:27 GMT -5
Allen please, we know he's done more than you , but you are clearly misenterpreting my suggestions & sending a negative message out, instead of focusing on the positive aspect of my message, you are leaning towards the negative, as if I am stating that Dave does not know what he is doing... where is that coming from
Dave understands exactly what I am suggesting & why... and I want to make it very, very clear that everything you have done is deeply respected & appreciated, not only by me, but as you can see everyone.  I do not know what your angle is, but everything that is in bold is something you have changed since our debate between ourselves began. You edit your posts to suit your viewpoints off of other peoples words. Case in point, this comment you quoted thinking I had made the statement shows you are speaking to the wrong person. " ... possibly that's how u feel ("we see don't see things how they are, we see thing how we are")... ypur comment will only repress others from speaking out w/ possibly good ideas for the growth of the sport. "Do not say that I said something when I did not. I did not come in and say anything negative towards you, nor anyone else, nor the way anything that is pertaining to this sport. It was to suggest that Dave knows what he is doing and doesn't need people (like us) to tell someone like him how to do what he knows best. Do not play on my words! |
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Post by Bill Collins on Dec 30, 2004 11:58:55 GMT -5
Harry, Harry, Harry
I can’t help but to jump in and point out a few things. Didn’t you read what Dave posted!
(The fact is if I was told 6 months ago that I could get 30 minutes I would have been overjoyed. We got 90 minutes and now I'm looking for more).
Dave has exceeded his own expectations personally and professionally. Your concerns are valid, and when you have a 30 minuet time slot you can only do so much.
“This is not just a one time showing he pulled off an armwrestling series”.
When Dave mentioned the women and lower weight divisions will get their turn, they’ll get there turn. Armwrestling is at the next level and is on television for one reason, and only one reason.
I personally know that Dave has pulled “quote” not hundreds but thousands out of his pocket to make this exposure happen. You’re into marketing and you should know that air time is one expense, and production is another.
Just to give all a quick heads-up what I experienced, when trying to get the Reno Reunion Internationals on television. A few one hour shows cost 35K that was only air time, and did not include a prime time showing. The production cost exceeded the air time. HELLO needless to say the $ return was not a productive adventure.
I’m a number person and I love the sport, and for someone to put bank into this production ,who'll never see a break even or positive return, has displayed a "Bull By The Horns", and has done this for the armwrestling sport.
Don’t’ take this personal but if you want to see the production go into a different spin step up to the plate and produce.
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Post by Joe Bacca on Dec 30, 2004 14:28:56 GMT -5
Hey Bill what's going on... sorry if you feel my intentions were negative in any way, I had a feeling this was going towards the wrong direction, I can sit here & try to justify everthing I said, but looking at it now, it will just be better left unsaid, so lets just drop it & move on. I will keep my suggestions in the forum bottled... put a fancy label on them & then sell them... lol "HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A HAPPY, HEALTHY & PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR" PEACE |
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Post by Jim Wagner on Dec 30, 2004 23:29:25 GMT -5
you to Harry! good luck this coming year
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