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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 26, 2005 23:42:31 GMT -5
I have found proof that is presentable on the following subjects.......
The crossing of the Red Sea
noahs ark
The account of Moses splitting a boulder in the wilderness to provide water for the children of Isreal
The ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah found with sulphur inbedded in the rocks...to such a degree it would have taken extreme tempatures that cannot not be duplicated with mans technology.
The discovery of the ark of the covenant. The strategic placement of God directly under the place where Christ was Crucified. 600 years before the birth of Christ. No one knew where the ark was hidden. It explains in this video how it was discovered and everything. also directly above the ark is a hole and a crack that leads from the place christ was crucified to the mercy seat of the ark. according to the Jewish sacrificial system the slain lamb had to be placed on the mercy seat of the ark and god would consume the blood as judgement of sin instead of pouring out judgement on man. They found blood stains leading down this crack onto the ark. samples where taken of the blood. The person with this blood scientificly had a mother and no father. A virgin birth. I guess the male provides 23 chromosomes and atleast one y chromosome if it is to be a boy and the woman provides 23 x chromosomes. the blood that was taken and tested had 23 x chromosomes and 1 y chromosome. Thus proving the virgin birth of mary. The existance of Jesus the fact that he was the sacrifice for sin and the fact that he was God and the Son of God.
This information is on video. I just watched it, it is incredible.
Here is a website were you can view some of the information. .http://www.wyattmuseum.com/index.htm
The most of the video was recorded in the late 70's and early 80's
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 26, 2005 23:53:44 GMT -5
I liked it you can believe what you want to believe but i recommend you watch these videos before you make final and absolute conclusion
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Post by josephsirois on Jan 27, 2005 1:10:00 GMT -5
"An evil generation seeks a sign" From.. whatever book in the Bible I can't remember which one.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 1:13:24 GMT -5
We are in that generation that seeks a sign. So God is giving it to them. A Godly Generation doesnt need such sign we bear witness in heart spirit the truths of the word.
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Post by josephsirois on Jan 27, 2005 1:17:44 GMT -5
"He whose testicles are crushed or whose male member is cut off shall not enter the assembly of the Lord." Deuteronomy 23:1 "Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, remove the foreskin of your hearts..." Jeremiah 4:4
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Post by josephsirois on Jan 27, 2005 1:19:56 GMT -5
25. "As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from the nations that are round about you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you, to inherit as a possession forever; you may make slaves of them, but over your bretheren the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another, with harshness." Christian god-Leviticus 25:44 "When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money." Christian god-Exodus 21:20
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Post by josephsirois on Jan 27, 2005 1:22:16 GMT -5
"When men fight with one another, and the wife of one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall have no pity." Christian god-Deuteronomy 25:11 "But if the thing is true, that the tokens of virginity were not found in the young woman, then you shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones..." Christian god-Deuteronomy 22:20
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Post by josephsirois on Jan 27, 2005 1:36:40 GMT -5
this will be my last one on this thread, I could make an entire thesis on Bible contradictions. God CAN be seen?? "And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (Ex. 33:23) "And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (Ex. 33:11) "For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (Gen. 32:30) Or God CANNOT be seen?? "No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18) "And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (Ex. 33:20) "Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1 Tim. 6:16)
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 10:23:27 GMT -5
Those are pretty violent scriptures arent they.......... this means God is not the gentle giant in the mountaisn somewhere waiting to love everyone who spits in his face. he is a just God.
The only time in the bible where mutilation is allowwed is when a woman attacks a mans genitles. This was a law to preserve the seed of Isreal.
Moses was the most humble man who ever lived. You would probably have to do a verse study on whether or not "face to face" is a literal physical statement. and if it is its ok.
God in his grace protected the slaves. Obviously the Jewish people didnt have much respect for anyone who was not a Jew. But in that God protected the slaves.
Are you seeking a sign Joseph? what is it your looking for?
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 10:32:30 GMT -5
If you were to find real contradictions in the bible they will be very minute.
In the big picture of the bible the theological and doctrinal foundation is solid and never changes unlike other religions. The strories are true historical accounts and are not just made up. you can try to find these lil contradictions but none of those scriptures contrasted the physical proof in this begining post.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 10:48:15 GMT -5
"Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, remove the foreskin of your hearts..."
Jeremiah 4:4
I dont understand you purpose for posting this?
are you implying that this scripture alone contradicts itself? Jeremiah was clarifying that the physical act or "work" isnt enough. Yes it is a physcial and a blood sacrifice representing the covenant of abraham. But God deals with the heart. Many of the Jews were very arrogant in that becuase they were the children of God and the were following the covenant of the law. Jeremiah was letting them know that its not about the flesh its about the condition of the heart. Its not about the things we do but the condition of the heart. Now that Jesus Christ died on the cross as the "New Covenant" fulfilling the promise of Abraham. We now are "Baptized"- physical action symbolizing the faith in the blood- and baptism is referred to as the circumsision of the heart.
This infact exposes many denominations and how they feel that our salvation is by works and it is not it is by the blood of the lamb Jesus Christ. Jeremiah is saying that you can go through your religious traing become a priest in you church be the leader of the boyscouts replace mother theresa and all these good things but if your heart isnt right its all in vain! Its all for nothing!
I know many people who are arrogant in how active they are in thier church and they put their faith in their good works and not in Christ.
The bible says faith without works is dead....so with our faith we will have something that is evident to people of our faith but it is becuase of our faith that we do these things. It is not that becuase we do these things that we are saved. That makes the work of Christ of no effect. And may very well cost you your salvation.
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Post by Steven Lareau on Jan 27, 2005 16:15:33 GMT -5
Somebody once told me that Jesus was black.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 16:19:35 GMT -5
uuuhhhhh......no
He was Jewish.
are you serious? or are you joking?
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Post by Steven Lareau on Jan 27, 2005 16:25:03 GMT -5
I'm serious! Somebody really told me once that he was definatley black. And he wouldn't take no for an answer.....
....and can't jews be black too??
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jan 27, 2005 16:29:06 GMT -5
Well now that i think about i guess they could im not sure...
to be more accurate of his origin he was Hebrew
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