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Post by Matl'e McDaniel on Feb 12, 2007 12:58:40 GMT -5
Thank u Ryan, Thank you There is only on Croatian person on this board and I will be damned if I don't defend Cro-Cop
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 12, 2007 17:04:23 GMT -5
dont get me wrong i think cro-cop is unreal as a fighter but i think he fights at too light a weight to be unstoppable in heavyweights..i'd love to see him drop to 205 i think he would do some major damage in that division no matter what brand he fights in.
Luck punch Ryan........C'mon your better than that, Randleman caught him and lets face it, if you get hit on the button unless you have an amazing chin your going down........it happens to the best of them, no biggie you live to fight another day...
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Post by Tommy Russell on Feb 12, 2007 17:17:07 GMT -5
Lucky punch? He pressed him the whole two minutes of the fight and then knocked him the F- - - out standing there toe to toe,and yes I love MMA and watch it every chance I get and also got some pretty nice skills myself. Anymore questions? ?
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 12, 2007 18:55:52 GMT -5
Ryan I dunno what fight you watched but heres the video proof from you tube that randlman ran right through cro-cop in their first meeting...
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Post by Tommy Russell on Feb 12, 2007 20:34:37 GMT -5
There's no doubt CROCOP's a tough guy but in this sport , It's any giving night.The only guy that's not showing a glich in his armour is Fedor.But it's just a matter of time before he gets .........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 12, 2007 20:52:59 GMT -5
Fedor is in the same boat that team lions den or tito got into.....he got to such a high level so fast and now theres no where for him to go, eventually everyone is going to catch up to him and then u will see the mighty fedor fall from grace.........just like Tito and The lions den did..
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 13, 2007 0:25:23 GMT -5
Wow... Cobra... help me out here... I know you are watching.
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 13, 2007 1:51:17 GMT -5
Lucky punch? He pressed him the whole two minutes of the fight and then knocked him the F- - - out standing there toe to toe,and yes I love MMA and watch it every chance I get and also got some pretty nice skills myself. Anymore questions? ? How is backing up pressing the fight? Cro Cop would have expected constant pressure from takedowm attempts and not watched for big shots. Anyways... I still think it was a lucky punch. Did you see the rematch? I did not ask about your skills... but you seemed to feel the need to tell me about them. Any particular reason? I am not trying to be an ass... just curious.
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Post by Tommy Russell on Feb 13, 2007 8:37:59 GMT -5
I don't think anything you just said made a lick sence, It's an MMA match not a wrestling match, But anyway opinions are like aholes everybody's got one . As far as my comment about my skills, You asked did I follow MMA and I was just letting you know that, yes not only do I follow it, I follow it from a fighters standpoint, Not from a bandwagon standpoint. Not being an ass, Sorry if you took It wrong.
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 13, 2007 9:49:28 GMT -5
tommy ryan isnt looking from a bandwagon standpoint....as much as we disagree on a lot of things I'll give him his due he is undefeated in his MMA career, Ryan fights MMA as well.
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 13, 2007 10:53:56 GMT -5
Tommy... how does it not make sense? Randleman is known as a wrestler not a striker. If one were to fight him it might make more sense to be ready to sprawl more than defend strikes. Anyways... I suppose we can agree to disagree.
And yes... I look at it from more than just a "bandwagon" standpoint also.
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 13, 2007 16:36:54 GMT -5
Ryan true Randleman is not a pure strikier, but he has striking capabilities and this is MA not Wrestling or boxing so I guess Cro-Cop should have prepared for the first fight like hed did for the seond one, where he was little more succesfull.
If any one was to fight any true MMA fighter he should prepare for all aspects and not just focus on what the guy acroos from him is supposed to be..
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Post by Tommy Russell on Feb 13, 2007 20:10:36 GMT -5
That was my same point Ty, And Ryan I was not impling that you yourself were the bandwagon type, I was just letting you know I wasen't from the do you you even follow MMA remark. No disrespect by any means, I just love the sport and love to debate it as well.My wife won't debate with me, she hates it!!!!!! With that said, Stand in front of Chuck L. long enough and you will get KNOCKED THE _ _ _ _ OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Ryan Espey on Feb 14, 2007 0:23:15 GMT -5
It was a mistake that Cro Cop made right in the next fight and unlike most KO's, it made Cro Cop a much better fighter.
As far as I am concerned Randleman's stand up is terrible and it was a shock to everyone that he KO'd someone... let alone Cro Cop. That was not long after he lost to a weathered Sakuraba.
No worries Tommy... lets keep the debate up... but perhaps a new thread is in order. This one is tired and we have UFC 68 to talk about.
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Post by Matl'e McDaniel on Feb 14, 2007 10:59:08 GMT -5
True!
As far as Chuck and Mirko fighting... Probably wont happen since the UFC does not want Mirko dropping 5lbs and destroying a man they make so much money from. Does anyone actually think that Mirko chose to way in at 220 for his first fight in the UFC when he stayed at 212 to fight everyone including Fedor? If Mirko stood in front of Chuck it would be a matter of praying that Chuck didn't get his head clean knocked off by a huge left kick. Mirko is to dominating of a force for Chuck to get close enough to actually hurt him. This would be a standup game and Mirko has the experience and the advantage against a smaller Chucky. JMO
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