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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 13, 2007 13:10:48 GMT -5
But to percieve can mean many different things..... An it does say that Samuel spoke to him not Samuel through the woman. She said that she seen him but it says Samuel spoke to him not the woman with the familiar spirit. Oh I believe some of that stuff they do is real but it is evil you can tell that. Just like Sylvia Browne makes these claims about guardian angels nowheres in the bible does it talk about us having guardian angels. Thats just a misleading thought an I have no idea who originally put that into peoples heads.
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Post by Robert Bishop on Jun 13, 2007 13:46:54 GMT -5
The bible says that satan himself is also transformed into an angel of light.Some say that in REV where it says that the dragon cast a third of the stars to the earth that the third is actually demons or fallen angels that fell with him
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 13, 2007 15:56:05 GMT -5
Or it could be an asteroid shower???
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Post by A L L E N F I S H E R on Jun 13, 2007 16:34:25 GMT -5
Okay, everyone I had to leave you this link. I encourage you to look at chapter 2. For those one you who need support to backup what what was written you click in the hyperlinks this will show where in the Bible these thoughts were taken from.
www.reformed.org/documents/wcf_with_proofs
You can argue and debate all you want, but know this your creator and sustainer has made himself known to all nations so that we all are with excuse. Romans chatper 1 makes this perfectly clear.
"If in this life only we have hope ... we are of all men most miserable"
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Post by TK on Jun 13, 2007 17:43:07 GMT -5
but as i seen a few post by Harold saying same ole thing the Atheist are saying.... make it count the first time around just in case your HEAVEN theory is faulty? there is still no proof of either...just heresay take care folks, TK LOL!!! What exactly does an "Atheist" say? Was it anger... Christians get angry!!! Was it a funny joke... I know some funny Christians!!! Was it about my work... .... what?? I cant imagine anything an Atheist would say except that God does not exist!! I'll tell you right now, you can threaten my life and those words wont come out of my mouth!!! I did get a chuckle out of that though Mr. Todd!! Also, dont you think you should make it count just in case YOUR theory is faulty?? as you can tell my choice is made....i'd rather burn......but Harold i don't fear it either way....lol...i figured you'd get a chuckle.....this is a fun subject to debate...because neither can side can prove anything...just argue about opinions...lol love ya Harold TK |
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Post by TK on Jun 13, 2007 17:45:17 GMT -5
BTW what did you mean by i open the door for god and bad?
just the subject of God himself will always draw hatred Ryan was all i was saying...and love.
i know you mean right by it.
TK
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Post by TK on Jun 13, 2007 17:56:53 GMT -5
Miracles.....i enjoy this as well......proof is in the pudding....whenever i ask for proof?..i always get scripture from where?...Bible.....this also makes me Chuckle...lol.....
questions religious folks can't answer without quoting the Bible
1. what is God's origin?
2. is there more than one god?
3. is scientology a real religion?
4. is there really a Satan?
5. did Mary really have a baby without some "thing" happening? (nothing nasty notice)
6. is there really any evidence that Jesus walked on water?
7. did Bruce almighty really take over God's duties?? seeing if you're really reading!!
next all the people on here post your God and your religious belief....
TK--no religion whatsoever Church of no beleif (but i'm no OGRE, not full of hatred)
TK
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Post by TK on Jun 13, 2007 18:01:51 GMT -5
i want to personly say i really don't mean harm by my words....i just like facts....i love to debate issues of this nature as well....Harold and Ryan are good guys with good messages. ..
i've been waiting for someone to tell me something factual without Bible Scripture ..it has yet to happen.
TK
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 13, 2007 18:37:46 GMT -5
Non-Scriptual answers: 1.Unless he left us a copy of his origin we wouldn't be able to figure this out Todd. Thats like if you didn't tell me where you came from an such an I didn't try to talk to you I wouldn't know who you was. 2.In different areas some people believe in more than one God but in every religion there is always a supreme being that resides above the rest. ALWAYS unlesss you have more info than I do??? 3. Actually that could be open to debate it's a matter of opinion. I don't think it is cause it's just a bunch of nerds that have different ways of looking at things but they are entitled to that. 4.Doesn't everyone have an arch nemesis??? I am yours lol jk maybe Harry Kern??? So if their is a God then there would be a Satan. There can't be good an no evil. There has to be evil in order for people to do good things. 5.Well ummm can't a woman be a virgin these days an have a baby?? YES. Artificial insemination. Although I think it's playing God. If there is a God then he could have implanted a baby in Mary. 6. Well unless you believe the bible then you can't answer this one an without the bible you wouldn't have ask this question. You have heard an at least learned a little about the bible Todd or you would not have ask this question. 7. That was just a movie. An No. Johnny Ezell Edwards II member at Alexis Baptist Church but is a little independent in his studies. I believe Jesus died on the cross for my sins an rose again on the 3rd day so that I may have everlasting life. Now I have a few questions of my own Todd. Why do we have a higher conciousness than an animal we can distinquish right from wrong an don't say an animal CAN. We know that a 30 year old man raping a 4 year old child is wrong an discusting an animal doesn't. Also why can we contemplate higher thinking than an animal??? Why do we even have feelings??? Why do these feelings an Morals we have affect our actions?  What gave us these feelings and sense of morals???Why can I see colors??? Really just because a scientist talks about the impulses that the eyes send to the brain make us see colors does that really make him true cause I have never observed this just read it like I have the bible. I choose to believe that but I don't have to seeing as to how he can't show us that this is true even though they say it's fact. I wanna see it with my own two eyes. I do however choose to believe that The bible is true an what I read in it is true. |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 13, 2007 18:40:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the question though. An this is the problem I run into with many so called bible thumpers they say you "have" to quote scripture to tell people about Jesus but you do not cause there not going to believe that you have to look at it from their point of view an ask them questions about it. Just mention him in there though an you have done your job.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 13, 2007 18:43:21 GMT -5
Another thing Todd how do I have the mental awareness to understand these shapes that an electrical device invented by man put on this other electrical device with picture panels in it is directed at asking me a question? How do I understand that I am supposed to give you an answer? Well known Nurosurgeons (spelling) that are atheist have said that when it comes to the human conciousness that they are tempted to believe in God because nothing physical can explain it.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 13, 2007 18:44:03 GMT -5
I guess some things are just meant to be left up to you to either believe or not believe an it's your choice that is why you have a free-will.  |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 13, 2007 18:47:56 GMT -5
I have just seen many things for the short amount of time that I have been living that make me choose an believe very firmly in God. No one ever pushed bible on me when I was younger I wasn't made to go to church I wasn't made to read the bible I was free to choose what "I" wanted to believe an i at the age of 15 chose to believe in God an it has been a very good decision for me an I really truly believe in him with all my heart an always will. To many things aren't right without him. I have felt his presence even though to you that is probably just something that I have wrong with me in my head. But I don't. I think im a little crazy sometimes but the doctors ruled me sane. I am just an average human being but I have a personal relationship with God that sets me apart from you that you could have to but that is up to you an at your choosing.
That is my feelings on it all Todd.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 13, 2007 18:49:14 GMT -5
An not once did I quote scripture.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jun 13, 2007 18:49:41 GMT -5
But I did use a mind that God gave me.  |
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What gave us these feelings and sense of morals???Why can I see colors??? Really just because a scientist talks about the impulses that the eyes send to the brain make us see colors does that really make him true cause I have never observed this just read it like I have the bible. I choose to believe that but I don't have to seeing as to how he can't show us that this is true even though they say it's fact. I wanna see it with my own two eyes. I do however choose to believe that The bible is true an what I read in it is true.
