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Post by Rick Laton on Aug 22, 2013 7:59:42 GMT -5
never bet against George ;D THAT ^^^^^^^^
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Post by Rick Laton on Aug 21, 2013 8:25:15 GMT -5
You know this sucks but was expected I think. I know I didn't personally buy into it. I was wanting to come BAD but made the decision not to due to something inside me just told me to skip this one. What really sucks and shows no class is that they waited this late to cancel it. You had to know a few days ago that this thing was about to fold. At least give the courtesy to not have the pullers waste their time flying into Vegas. Most can get back SOME of their money and use it for a later flight, but not if you are in the air! At LEAST could have saved the time off work. ANYBODY that messes with these guys (Marvin Cohen) in the future is CRAZY!!
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Post by Rick Laton on Aug 21, 2013 8:24:50 GMT -5
You know this sucks but was expected I think. I know I didn't personally buy into it. I was wanting to come BAD but made the decision not to due to something inside me just told me to skip this one. What really sucks and shows no class is that they waited this late to cancel it. You had to know a few days ago that this thing was about to fold. At least give the courtesy to not have the pullers waste their time flying into Vegas. Most can get back SOME of their money and use it for a later flight, but not if you are in the air! At LEAST could have saved the time off work. ANYBODY that messes with these guys (Marvin Cohen) in the future is CRAZY!!
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Post by Rick Laton on Aug 9, 2013 12:45:16 GMT -5
I am in a great mood today so I might as well tell you my second thought on why the 4-1 appeared: Marcio recently had practise with Mr. Smith and Mr. Marrocco... perhaps word got out that Marcio was much stronger than them (??). This is just a guess, of course, I have no way of knowing what happened in that practise... someone asked, but Dave replied "Ask Marcio", so it's still a mystery for us fanboys not living near the pullers. So maybe, just maybe, after realizing that you (Rob) beat Marcio 3 times (although losing 4-3 in the supermatch result) a few months ago, then maybe the fellows voting for "4-1" thought you would be so dominating over Ken Smith that they just threw an extra win in there!! I know, that makes absolutely no sense, it's intended to be humorous. In fact, I'm not done yet: "Why the loss then? Why 4-1 and not 4-0 if he will be so dominant?", you may ask. Well here is my best guess: Rob was so convincing in his wins, and in one of the matches he thought he had won before the match even started, and started doing his trademark double bicep post and table smacking, all while still being strapped to his opponent... so the refs had to call a foul, hence the loss, and the 4-1 result. Dang... no matter how hard I try I can't be funny. Please enlighten us with one of those encyclopedia-chapter-length posts of yours dude, they are top notch Thinking outside the box. I like it !
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Post by Rick Laton on Jul 30, 2013 13:26:13 GMT -5
I think that stand up is far more popular than sit down. With that said, there was two nationals for many years and the sit down was recognized. Now at that point, both nationals qualified you for worlds. Now there are several tournaments that are listed as nationals. Not all of them qualify you for worlds but are still well respected. I think that sit downs should be recognized if the others are.
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Post by Rick Laton on Jul 29, 2013 15:56:04 GMT -5
I have to say that Jason always gave me the most challenge consistently in the straps , But i.m pretty sure I have more wins on him in the straps than he does me . Most recently a super match in NYC 4 years ago .I won the first two matches and he didn't want to go a third time . It was always a good time pulling him with mutual respect in the straps !We both wanted to be in the straps there was no point in even setting up with out them . it was inevitable we would always end up there. I was thinking that Jason beat you easily the first match in the straps. Match #2 you stopped him and burned him out and won. Match #3 was not even close as you handled him easily. Probably wrong on the first match but that was what I recalled.
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Post by Rick Laton on Jul 29, 2013 15:15:35 GMT -5
Glad to see you again too Alan. Always good to talk to you and Pettis. I told someone the other day that after 26 years of pulling, the actual pulling is not that important anymore. The best part is seeing guys/gals that I haven't seen in a while. Hanging out and eating with friends and pulling for my guys is the real deal to me. I had a great time. Glad I ended up coming. Cory Ruiz is still a bad dude! I'm going to beat that rascal before I'm done though! Take care. See everyone at the next one.
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Post by Rick Laton on Jul 14, 2013 15:42:47 GMT -5
Jason Vale and Matt Harris.
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Post by Rick Laton on Jul 6, 2013 9:27:00 GMT -5
I understand, Glen, but it's not about being greedy. It's about getting people to commit and stick to their word. I'm sure if $50-$100 is nonrefundable, you won't have everyone backing out like last time. As a fan, I hate to see that happen. I'm sure the pullers hated it too. We got all excited and things kept changing. I know it's not your fault. Just a suggestion. I agree. Emergencies happen. 75% of the people that back out of these "Agreements" aren't backing out due to emergency. "I had to work." "I didn't have a ride". That is not an emergency in my opinion. If you are planning on going to a tournament you should have asked off work well in advance. MOST bosses are not going to "Fire" you for taking a day off that you asked for well in advance. You shouldn't commit until after you have asked and know that everything is set. 1/2 the entry fee seems fair to me. If someone from your family dies or is in a true "Emergency" state I'm sure that the pullers will refund your money.
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Post by Rick Laton on Jul 3, 2013 21:53:52 GMT -5
Gary, you are partly right. Craig lost 3-2. Both times he got to the straps Craig won. Mike took his hand, Craig stopped him and pulled him up with his wrist kinked back and eventually hooked Mike and beat him. The "Rubber" match, Craig couldn't get loose and Mike beat him pretty easily. Craig was about 160 then and Mike was probably around 176 or more. Back then, the setup lasted forever. Everyone was carving, bowing, posting, etc. It was who was cheating the most when they actually said go. Now, with the correct refs, you aren't going to be moving all over the place. My very first thought was Craig is 35 pounds heavier and he will win. But Mike has really learned how to win the setup. He NEVER gets a grip and gets to the straps every time. With his huge hand it will be a war. I'm not sure who I would pick.
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Post by Rick Laton on Jun 28, 2013 9:30:14 GMT -5
Diamond plate tops should be outlawed. They fu#k your knuckles and elbows up! Keep your elbows on the elbow pads and that won't happen. Cheater! ;D
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Post by Rick Laton on Jun 12, 2013 10:33:58 GMT -5
I agree that the payouts are much higher than they need to be, but my gut tells me that they will be paid in full just at they are advertised (with the exception of the Supermatches $50,000 EACH) that I feel like are "Made for Television" and were secretly never promised to be that high in the first place. As a promoter, there is no money in the tournament itself. I don't care what people tell you, there is NEVER any substantial money left over after paying the expenses. If you are lucky you will make $5.00/hour for the time you invested. These will be no exception. You could put the entry fee at $250 and not even come close to making back your investment. The investment is made in hopes of the tv time or Pay Per View that could in the long run make big bucks. Example: If you do these three tournaments and only advertise in the armwrestling "Circles" you will lose money and lose money BIG. BUT..... if you were to spend a $1,000,000 on ESPN and Fox Sports advertising a PPV for the 3rd one, you may make $1,500,000 when all is said and done. A 33% return on your investment. Can it be done without spending the big bucks? NO. Can it be done with spending the big bucks? Time will tell. My guess is yes. I'm sure that this is a biased opinion as I would love to see the sport take off. My point is, it doesn't really matter how many armwrestlers show up to compete at these three tournaments. That is not going to make it or break it. What is going to make it or break it is the amount of advertising that they do and the "Product" that they ultimately deliver.
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Post by Rick Laton on Jun 1, 2013 15:43:15 GMT -5
^^^^But if they can make the 198 class, i feel they should be considered sub 200 cuz theres ALOT of people that cut to their class and not just walk around and weigh in makin weight. Cuttin or not cuttin is totally up to the individual and how they feel the stack up pulling cuttin weight vs not cutting weight. Some that cut to 65's or 87's to win a national title may never see that weight again till next nationals cuz the usually cut to 76 or 98. I think IF, they have pulled 198 or under before, and are still in range, they should be considered, but just saying, well....if they decided to cut.....then they would do this or that. Cuz heck if john brzenk decided to get crossfit mania and cut back to 98's then theyre be alot of problems.....lol just my opinion tho Not sure if rvj, sill or the others have pulled 98's or not, that 210 class in florida was pretty close. I know gulley weighs bout 210 but hasnt ever pulled a 98 class that i know of. Being about to cut to 198 should definately make a difference in their P4P ranking. Craig could cut to 165 I'm sure. Would that not make his pound for pound ranking much higher? My under 200 top three P4P would be.... Chad, Craig and Corey in that order I left out George because no one seems to take him seriously because of his style. If you throw him in the mix I don't think anyone under 200 pounds (except may Anthony D.) could beat him in a best of 6 format.
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Post by Rick Laton on Jun 1, 2013 15:36:53 GMT -5
When he started I heard he only weighed 106 pulling 132 I may be a little off but not much. He was around 130 at the start. He had to work hard to make 121 to win his first World Title. The class was 135 and he was not far from it even at 16 years old. Chad, if you are listening, is this a pretty close guess?
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Post by Rick Laton on May 31, 2013 17:42:57 GMT -5
I have one rule in armwrestling..... Don't bet against Crazy George! Pretty sure I wouldn't bet against Chad Silvers or Craig Tullier either! I think these are the best three in NA at 176 and below.
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