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Post by Kiril Bogdanski on Jul 26, 2011 9:17:10 GMT -5
I am very curious to heat Michael`s opinion and speculation about a possible match between Devon and Alexey, since he pulled both pullers in 6 round format. I know its hard to compare different styles and different shape of Michael, arms health, bigger experience, new top roll move and so on... just wanna hear some impressions:) , I bet as everyone else  |
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Post by John Milne on Jul 26, 2011 20:58:35 GMT -5
Mike and I spoke of this on the weekend. He thinks both he and Devon would smash Alexey.
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Post by Joe Rozbora on Jul 26, 2011 21:10:54 GMT -5
well Alexey pulled Mike 4 yrs ago......
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Post by John Milne on Jul 26, 2011 21:16:26 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of that match. As you know, in AW 4 years is a long time.
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Post by Joe Rozbora on Jul 26, 2011 21:34:16 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of that match. As you know, in AW 4 years is a long time. yes I know,but is pointless talking @ this match,he is not active like 4 yrs...lets setup with active pullers.like Cyplenkov,Usmanov or Pushkar.If we talking about European pullers..for Michael in US is only fear Jerry...Idont know how he did with Richard,...jmo |
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Post by Dan Benoit on Jul 26, 2011 21:46:22 GMT -5
Who has ever beaten alexey right?
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Post by Dante Dall'Antonia on Jul 26, 2011 22:52:56 GMT -5
I think that the Michael Todd of today would beat the Voevoda of 2007 in 6 rounds.This is just my opinion but my reasoning is because in 2007 if you watch all the matches Voevoda sets up with huge back pressure and Mike tries to catch hook and drag on voevodas side of the table and you see what happened .Now i think they would end up in the straps and mike would use his wide lock and rotation. Now i still think voevoda could take better hand control but to finish Mike you need to press him and from watching lots of Voevoda he dosnt look like he has that kind of power in that direction (side/down pressure) i think this was the key for Devon in his wins keep hand control toproll but to finish you gotta have a press.Mike would press Voevoda in the straps to win. Just my opinion i could be wrong.
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Post by Josh Handeland on Jul 26, 2011 23:46:27 GMT -5
I agree, Devon over Voevoda... and maybe Mike too
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Post by Coley Jones on Jul 26, 2011 23:52:22 GMT -5
Top Voevoda vs Top Devon would be unbelieveable.
Remember Nemiroff, when Brzenk brought Voevoda's hand around with that toproll that ended up slipping? I think Devon might be able to do the same thing, only with a longer arm than Brzenk's. In the strap, if Devon kept it out of a hook and in his power, I think it might favor him slightly and he could win.
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Post by Jacob Hale on Jul 27, 2011 0:17:00 GMT -5
Top Voevoda vs Top Devon would be unbelieveable. Remember Nemiroff, when Brzenk brought Voevoda's hand around with that toproll that ended up slipping? I think Devon might be able to do the same thing, only with a longer arm than Brzenk's. In the strap, if Devon kept it out of a hook and in his power, I think it might favor him slightly and he could win. Im not sure if there has ever been a human being in existence that could have beaten Voevoda that day at Nemiroff. He CRUSHED a top form Travis in the straps, and CRUSHED a healthy (but light) John Brzenk in a hook. Great armwrestlers dont do that. Only one time freaks of nature do. But then again, what do I know lol! |
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Jul 27, 2011 2:25:49 GMT -5
John wasn't healthy Jacob. From what I remember he was having some arm problems at that time.
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Post by Neil Pickup on Jul 27, 2011 8:06:37 GMT -5
Top Voevoda vs Top Devon would be unbelieveable. Remember Nemiroff, when Brzenk brought Voevoda's hand around with that toproll that ended up slipping? I think Devon might be able to do the same thing, only with a longer arm than Brzenk's. In the strap, if Devon kept it out of a hook and in his power, I think it might favor him slightly and he could win. Im not sure if there has ever been a human being in existence that could have beaten Voevoda that day at Nemiroff. He CRUSHED a top form Travis in the straps, and CRUSHED a healthy (but light) John Brzenk in a hook. Great armwrestlers dont do that. Only one time freaks of nature do. But then again, what do I know lol! ACTUALLY in truth there is A LOT of myth & legend surrounding what went down at the Zloty Tur. John wasn't in great shape at all he only weighed 94kg WITH JEANS ON and was RUINED by the time he got to Alexey. Plus all the Top Eastern European Pullers laid down for Alexey & HAMMERED into the U.S. Pullers throughout the day. Devon would definately EXPLODE the Myth over Six Rounds right now. As would THE CURRENT ALL NEW "MONSTER MIKE", Andre Pushkar in current Top Shape & also "THE GINGERDRED MAN". Also for info, the John Brzenk that Devon was able to defeat over Six at ARM WARS "DEEP WATER" was ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT QUESTION far stronger than the battered version that Alexey pulled in 2004. The John that pulled Ultimate Vegas in 2006 would have HANDEDLY levelled the Score Vs. Alexey.........maybe Vs. Devon too although the later would be FAR TOUGHER over Six Rounds. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE !!!  I commentated all day & I reffed the match between John & Alexey. John was SMOKED at that point & out of the strap he didn't handle Travis as easily as many people seem to think. Devon is not a normal man he is a FREAK, the Man doesn't get tired like a normal man, he is Strong in ALL positions and has the weapons to counter almost every style. I genuinely believe that time may prove that Devon Larratt is the most complete Super-Heavyweight in the History of the Sport, we will see  Cheers Neil |
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 27, 2011 9:24:12 GMT -5
come on guys respect to Alexy..
John was smoked before he met Alexy? yes he was but who tired John? Taras Ivakin who could not even move Alexy and i guess this answers the question about if John was fresh etc speculation.John was not in a great shape and he had hard time with Andras as well.
this is what John wrote after he faced Alexy;
" As far as what I need to do to chase Alexey ….10 lbs 20 lbs 30 lbs….? Yes this would help.
But mainly I need to get out of the Gym …and back on the arm wrestling table.
Will it be enough for Alexey in the future?
I’m not sure especially if he keeps pushing the envelope.
Using Big Matt as a gauge ….Alexey looked very, very strong! "
but IMO,2006 Vegas version of John would beat any one in any format of armwrestling.
Alexy would beat the rest in a tournament format but i do not know about Alexy in 6 rounds as only match i saw him in 6 rounds with right arm was after a long brake for armwrestling,against M.Todd and Alexy did not seem to get any tired even in later rounds.so i believe Alexy vs Devon would be same as Taras vs Alexy as a result.just a bigger & experienced version of Devon vs bigger & higher quality version of Taras (Alexy).
if i would do a ranking of last 10 years then it would be;
1- 2006 John
2- 2004 Alexy
3- 2006 Ferit
4- 2011 Pushkar
5- 2011 Devon
6- 2010 Jerry
7- 2006 Travis
8- 2010 Cyplenkov
9- 2011 M.Todd
10-2005 Matt Girdner
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 27, 2011 9:29:33 GMT -5
Remember Nemiroff, when Brzenk brought Voevoda's hand around with that toproll that ended up slipping? . John just rotated his hand out without having any grip on Alexy and it ended up with strap.that day Alexy was too much for John.2006 Vegas shape of John would have beat Alexy of 2004 Zloty,JMO. |
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Post by enginterzi on Jul 27, 2011 9:31:36 GMT -5
Who has ever beaten alexey right? Travis fukn bagent ;D even Travis was not in his best while Alexy was about 235 (107kg).following year both athletes were at great shape and weighed over 270 pounds. |
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