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Post by Rob Bigwood on Oct 2, 2009 18:07:57 GMT -5
I could probably set up a site online that allows people to fill out a profile and upload a pic and etc. Promoters could just go online to the url and select the competitors that will be at the event that day and display the profiles on screen. Maybe even do the bracket system like this? Combine both?
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Post by Frank "The PREZ" Hirst on Oct 2, 2009 20:02:10 GMT -5
Nice Banner Frank...david does good work thanks Gary! yes I love it. David is the man.
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Post by Josh 'Butcher' Bratton on Oct 2, 2009 21:29:46 GMT -5
Nice Banner Frank...david does good work thanks Gary! yes I love it. David is the man. Truth!!! LoL
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Post by "VENGEANCE" -David Rivera- on Oct 3, 2009 1:13:52 GMT -5
Nice Banner Frank...david does good work thanks Gary! yes I love it. David is the man. Thanks guys Glad you like them.
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Post by Hungry Hippo on Oct 3, 2009 1:35:53 GMT -5
I always thought it would be cool to have score cards on the screen when the pullers names are announced. Stats and a little bit about them and etc. The crowd needs to relate to the guys who are up on stage... Absolutely...I've been to tourneys where world champs are and not even mentioned. Very poor courtesy.
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Post by BigDaddyJoe™ on Oct 3, 2009 2:36:29 GMT -5
I must say that every tournament that I've ever ran the brackets for had only complaints that were because of lack of patience.
NAA events are basically as follows:
#1 Always start on time if not a little before and that includes extending weigh-ins on an average of 15-20 minutes per event.
#2 Always.......ALWAYS finish in a timely manner. If we promote that the event will be over at 6:00 p.m. we'll be finished at 4:30 p.m. Why? Because we are that DAMN GOOD!
#3 Awards are excellent!
#4 No matter what tournament you go to a ref MAY miss a call here or there, but at an NAA event, yea, calls may get missed once in a blue moon but you have experienced National/World champs and armwrestling experts reffing your matches.
#5 With the exception of the last tournament the atmosphere is usually the best that you can ask for and I believe that any armwrestler would agree. Great food, great drinks, usually hot bartenders ;-)!
#6 The NAA tables NEVER.........EVER break! They are top quality tables that are made by Frank Hirst(he has a link somewhere if you want one of his tables).
and finally..........
#7 The only complains we ever have is when an armwrestler comes up to the scorers table and says, "I haven't heard my name, I haven't been up to the table yet". The reason for this problem is 2 things, #1 Most of the time they don't pay attention to when the MC DADDY MAC James Retarides is calling all of the names in the weight class, and #2 the biggest reason that this happens is because the NAA hold such great events with all elite pullers. Yes that makes no sense right now, but let me throw a scenario at you for a moment, at the last NAA tournament that just finished 3 weeks ago, the 205 weight class right handed had 22 entries. 22!!!!!!! That's 1/2 of most tournaments total entries!!! True Story. So now you have 22 men in ONE weight class and you're 6 matches into the weight class and you have 1 or 2 pullers asking this one question with fear that they weren't entered into the tournament. Simple solution and the way that I may come off rude when being the scorer. THERE ARE 22 ENTRIES......ITS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE EVERY SINGLE PULLER HAS PULLED AT LEAST ONE MATCH.
In conclusion......NAA IS THE crap and the promoters know how to get a great venue, great refs, the best MC and the best bracketeers.
Thank you
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Post by Dan Thomas on Oct 3, 2009 7:41:02 GMT -5
Neil does his shows well, he introduces all the pullers by weight class and has the two opponents enter from opposite sides of the stage, his main event matches have video intro's with info and interviews with the two pullers and walk down music for final matches or main draw super matches. Elbow fouls are only called when they gain the offending puller an advantage, never for anything else. (Too many matches at the Worlds were ruined by fouls called for 1/4 inch jumps of the elbow.) As promoters you can decide on the severity of foul to be called as long as it is made clear before the event starts there can be no complaints during the comp.
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Post by Hungry Hippo on Oct 3, 2009 11:22:05 GMT -5
Neil does his shows well, he introduces all the pullers by weight class and has the two opponents enter from opposite sides of the stage, his main event matches have video intro's with info and interviews with the two pullers and walk down music for final matches or main draw super matches. That's what I'm talking about!!
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Post by Rick "Lummox" North on Oct 4, 2009 7:30:51 GMT -5
I think giving some background of pullers and the sport would be great at any tounament. It would make the audience more informed and excited. As a promoter if you knew who was coming you could do the research as to who they are and what the have won. Most times (except for challenge matches) you have no idea who is going to show up. I had Dirk Ramerez from Louisiana show up at a RI tourney. I had suggested a "who's who" of armwrestling so you could research on the people in the tourney. I think that would make the "starting on time" difficult though. Having an announcer who knows the sport and gets the crowd excited is awesome too. This type of poll helps people like myself get a grip on where the money and time should be spent on a tourney. Thanks for starting it!!
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Post by Anthony Snook on Oct 4, 2009 7:57:16 GMT -5
TOOOOOOO Slow. I'm a "zone" puller. I like to get in my zone, come down a LITTLE, and jump right back in it in a few. If there is a 1, 2, 3, 4, hr. break in between.....that SUCKS! If you stay in one class until the final 4 you can always have your next match "on deck" instead of jumping back and forth and having "down time" when no one is on the table = saves time.
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Post by Gary Roberts on Oct 4, 2009 9:47:43 GMT -5
My D$%K is bigger longer and smoother than yours
thats what some of these posts come off as.
bottom line..most promoters don't make a living at this and do the best to run their event to break even. you need as many entries as possible, you need to keep your costs down as much as possible.
to ask for your dream event is to be asking for a bunch of $$$$$ to be pumped into the sport. some of these events need to be cut some slack. you want to armwrestle...you want the perfect tournament...and making demands yet your not doing anything to put on your own perfect tournament.
Most tournaments need to be cut some slack
All new tournaments need to be given ALOT ALOT of slack (ie the MN thread)
NAA also runs smooth and quick because it also has less weight classes.
the results are very interesting as in, you want it to run quickly as smoothly yet you won't attend an event if it doesn't have your weight class...so the promoters try to accomodate the puller and get flak because the event is too long. funny
this is to no one in general and just giving some thoughts...haven't read every page of this.
In my event in particular, I wanted pre entries so I could plan ahead. When I thought it was going to be light entries, I cancelled the extra table..and all the entries came in last minute so I have to do a rush job on shipping the table over. If I go with one table...the event goes long..and you get ticked off but still registered late. interesting.
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Post by Trapper Saltzman on Oct 4, 2009 10:17:21 GMT -5
Rob>>>I like that Idea...run with it dude//
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Oct 4, 2009 12:24:00 GMT -5
NAA has less weight classes because NAA Contestants are REAL "Armwrestlers", they aren't afraid to pull someone 15lbs or more......Thats why the NAA has gotten roughly 100 entries of so..AND WE DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by BigDaddyJoe™ on Oct 4, 2009 13:31:18 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^^^^^ which is why my previous post is the most truthful post i've ever posted
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Post by Anthony Snook on Oct 4, 2009 14:09:01 GMT -5
IMO I don't think the NAA runs smoother and quicker because it has less classes. They start a class and run it to the final four on two tables. Theres no "this class has 4" and "this class has 17" so lets run 2 matches in this class, run through my brackets and run 5 in this one, lets let this class pull a match, now we should go back to the 1st class........All that jumping around takes time. There is no guessing if you'll be up in 3 mins or 37mins. You pretty much know the whole time where you're at.
Gary, bigger and longer may help but the smoother part? not sure on that one.
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