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Post by Zach Creel on Sept 6, 2012 18:28:09 GMT -5
Which ones appear to be best for training and where is the best website to get them? I know Igor is all about using some handles. I'd pay good money for translated versions of his youtube videos lol
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Post by Chuck Barney on Sept 6, 2012 18:38:21 GMT -5
zach how did u do at your tournament last month?
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Post by Zach Creel on Sept 6, 2012 18:43:14 GMT -5
zach how did u do at your tournament last month? Got destroyed. 1-2 Right and 0-2 Left. I definitely under estimated the startup as I only trained slow gradual increase in pressure because I thought it was safer. Definitely learned my lesson lol Thanks for asking. How was yours? |
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Post by James Worke on Sept 6, 2012 19:41:21 GMT -5
Using 1" 2" & 3" pvc pipe and running a rope/cable thru them, its pretty easy to make 3 different.sizes that spin
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Post by Zach Creel on Sept 6, 2012 20:17:53 GMT -5
Using 1" 2" & 3" pvc pipe and running a rope/cable thru them, its pretty easy to make 3 different.sizes that spin Yea I was kind of referring to what the above poster talked about. The cone shaped handle and there are some other ones somewhat similar to that. |
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Post by Justin "Bama Bull" Bishop on Sept 6, 2012 20:41:46 GMT -5
2 words TERMINATER 3D!!! Look it up and you'll see why. Allen Fisher has a few videos using it.
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Post by kyledarby on Sept 7, 2012 0:14:58 GMT -5
Terminator handles are the only handle. Best quality and design available. They are designed by an arm wrestler specifically for sport specific training. These handles are endorsed by John Brzenk. You get what you pay for and these handles are money well spent. Contact John Cole he is a member and a heck of a nice guy.
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Post by kyledarby on Sept 7, 2012 0:52:00 GMT -5
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Post by Brian Burgos on Sept 8, 2012 12:36:26 GMT -5
I second that. The Terminator handle is the best thing I own for training in arm wrestling to attach to pulleys or bands. John was even nice enough to throw in both handle types, the flat and the round.
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Post by Michael Bluth on Sept 8, 2012 13:35:22 GMT -5
I like handles that wind up. They really put the pressure into your fingers and try and break back your wrist. They are easy to make too. You can buy all of Igor's handles off of armpower.net btw
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Post by Zach Creel on Sept 8, 2012 14:57:45 GMT -5
I like handles that wind up. They really put the pressure into your fingers and try and break back your wrist. They are easy to make too. You can buy all of Igor's handles off of armpower.net btw Yeah I have seen them on armpower.net...... cost about an arm and a leg for something that seems makeable. |
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Post by Robert Miller on Sept 9, 2012 11:59:23 GMT -5
Rolling thunder & Manus grips!! 2" pvc works well for pullups also!!
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Sept 9, 2012 14:29:26 GMT -5
If you focus and are true to the movements you can make your hand and wrist iron with a plain old d ring handle.
Wrist curls ARE harder with a thin handle as opposed to A thick one if done properly.... Not to mention you can strengthen your hand in a way directly related to AW without ever grabbing a thick handle.
I played with this stuff for a long time now...
Been intrigued with hand and forearm strength for a long time and my theories have changed over the years due to ongoing tests and experimentation .
I have found that if you disect it all and make the movements true... A d ring or olympic bar IS superior to thick handles for AW.
This is contradictory to my former beliefs , but through time this is my thoughts and my hand/ wrist is really...REALLY strong right now.
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Post by Zach Creel on Sept 10, 2012 5:13:33 GMT -5
If you focus and are true to the movements you can make your hand and wrist iron with a plain old d ring handle. Wrist curls ARE harder with a thin handle as opposed to A thick one if done properly.... Not to mention you can strengthen your hand in a way directly related to AW without ever grabbing a thick handle. I played with this stuff for a long time now... Been intrigued with hand and forearm strength for a long time and my theories have changed over the years due to ongoing tests and experimentation . I have found that if you disect it all and make the movements true... A d ring or olympic bar IS superior to thick handles for AW. This is contradictory to my former beliefs , but through time this is my thoughts and my hand/ wrist is really...REALLY strong right now. Can you post a link of what exactly you are referring too? I googled D-ring for lifting and I don't know if that is what you mean. If i understand correctly you are saying as far as wrist curls it is better for a thin handle because you get more ROM by letting the handle slide down near your fingertips? But as far as a hammer curl then a wider handle would be better though? |
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Sept 10, 2012 7:44:01 GMT -5
^^^ not sure what you mean ...
I never do hammer moves with a wide handle, it puts a different stress on the front lever motion of the wrist when the hand is open. When I do hammer work I focus on the group I'm trying to strengthen
A d- ring is a standard single handle that you see at a gym...1" handle I think... If you turn it sideways it looks like a "D"
I think it is better to use a standard handle because if you mimic grabbing a hand like 99% of us do when training for AWing we flatten our hand like we flatten it in a match.
A 1" handle in this grip sits higher on the palm and across the callous area where the thickness of a 2" or thicker handle keeps the pressure more mid palm... In leverage terms you are getting more pressure in a spot higher on the palm at its highest point as opposed to mid palm where we hardly ever feel the load.
As far as hand strength you can build a solid flat grip with an olympic bar or d ring. If you think of your fingers where do thed open ?... At the joint that meets the palm. You can difectly tax that area by grabbing a bar and folding flat fingers over it ... Hold the weight til it takes that small joint and moves it at all... If it does readjust and repeat... It's a micro movement where a half inch means you are doing it wrong... It takes being meticulous.
It will close up the gab in your hand and make it tighter in a line up .
I practice versatility and love thick handle work, but a 1" handle has many benefits for truly strengthening your wrist and areas of your hand that a thick handle isn't necessarily best for.
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