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Post by Nate Gagnon on Mar 4, 2013 11:50:54 GMT -5
Love to see you pull against Zoloev
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Post by John Milne on Mar 4, 2013 11:53:42 GMT -5
I was about to say the same thing Nate
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Mar 4, 2013 11:54:48 GMT -5
You'd have to amputate Arsen's legs for him to hit >200 I think...Toddzilla could hit 200 couldn't he? Isn't he like 210? Tobb is an obvious choice, but I don't know how long he is out for and if he returns... Also that extra 10 lbs might hurt him... Idk... Weight affects some.. Who knows. That list, like the supers is susceptible to flip flopping around depending on the day, starts and who gets where first... But like the super list.. These are the main guys... Provided they are 200... If not then fire away at a list
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Post by John Milne on Mar 4, 2013 11:58:31 GMT -5
One thing is for sure, these lists are more fun to talk about than rankings. People get so out of joint about those. It seems this is more light and more fun to speculate.
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Mar 4, 2013 12:00:45 GMT -5
Love to see you pull against Zoloev There you go Nate.... Talk to sponsors and get him here for June... Now you are talking a promotion..6 rounds!!! Armwars rules ... East meets west...will be a hell of a show This is your chance as a promoter Nate !!
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Post by Nate Gagnon on Mar 4, 2013 12:03:44 GMT -5
Love to see you pull against Zoloev There you go Nate.... Talk to sponsors and get him here for June... Now you are talking a promotion..6 rounds!!! Armwars rules ... East meets west...will be a hell of a show This is your chance as a promoter Nate !! I will seriously look into making this match happen for June 8th--can you imagine?
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Post by John Milne on Mar 4, 2013 12:08:38 GMT -5
This would be AWESOME
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Post by Nate Gagnon on Mar 4, 2013 12:16:26 GMT -5
Man, would it ever!! Let's see how things unfold over the next few weeks!!
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Post by Neil Pickup on Mar 4, 2013 14:17:12 GMT -5
I think looking to WAF as the leading organization is questionable and in my opinion incorrect. Mike has been injured for a loooonnng time.. this is nothing new. In my opinion there needs to be a further shake up of the rules - even under the ARMWARS rule system (which i believe is the best set of rules we have currently) there should be a few mods to further this sport in my opinion.. Elbow foul - your pad your foul. black and white. Break arm position- get rid of both of them (at pro level.. not amateur). Lastly - here is a big one... switch to Arm sumo table - no pads, no pin line (knuckles touch or hold off the table for 3 count). Anyways.. just proposals, but under what i believe is currently the KING format - one on one - 6 rounds - running fouls - minute break - etc.. Mike Todd is the guy to beat, like it or not.. you gotta respect the winner. Like it or not WAF IS the leader in this field and those rules are there for a reason for protect the pullers and prevent a lot of bs, some of the most entertaining armwrestling I have seen has been on the old espn shows and they used the regular rules. You wanna reinvent the wheel, fine. Lets go back to sit down and starting in a hook no pin pads no elbow pads, just pin your opponent! Oh and hold it for a 3 Count! I'm sure the sport would blow right up then. I like a winner just win within the rules. Hi David, I hope you & your Family are well mate. Just one point, I agree with the old ESPN Show comment however the rules they actually utilized or at least enforced are about as similar to the current WAF rules as I am to Brad Pitt ! ie. clearly based on a similar foundation ;D YET with some huge differences. The current WAF rules are flawed to the point of actually restricting the growth of the Sport (whilst I agree that WAF is the leading Organisation for Amatuer Armwrestling in the World). The rules have been evolved over time in often irrational manner, largely to prevent stress for referee's, make it EASY to understand for Referee's with limited experience & to facilitate an event with 1,600 - 1,900 entries taking place over a period of 4 Days. WAF as the leading Organisation for Amatuer Armwrestling should refine the rule system OR EVEN the event itself to benefit the furtherment of Armwrestling as a Sport. The primary ticket to achieveing that is making it appeal to the wider community. MAKE IT EXCITING AGAIN. MAKE PEOPLE STOP & WATCH, ENCOURAGE WARS, MINIMIZE NEEDLESS FOULS WHICH DESTROY THE SPORTS APPEAL. Anyway back on point, Rob, hope your well my friend. You do need to get MT at the Top of your thought process IF we are still talking about who can put who's Arm onto a Pad ! He is really good at doing it. END OF. Don't wanna turn this into another supporters Vs. Haters Technical debate so no more about that. I 100% endorse the fact that as Devon stated Gennady Kwickvenia, Sergey Tokarev should be talked about in that same group as should Arsen L, Krasi, Ivan Matyushenko, Osmanli & even an in form Yoshi (Injury Status check dependant BUT that was one BAD MAN) Semerenko or Modestas Grigaitis would be SERIOUS THREATS to a number of the athletes in that Half Dozen. Congrats to Dave Chaffee on his big win at the weekend, cracking lad who deserves to do well in the Sport, good to see him get a result.
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Post by Rob Vigeant Jr. on Mar 4, 2013 14:27:46 GMT -5
^^ back at you Neil, I guess it's an impossible argument as he wins per the organization he pulls... Fair enough
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Post by Jason Merlo on Mar 4, 2013 14:31:07 GMT -5
I have to agree with some folks about Arsen Liliev.....he did pin cyplenkov in russia.
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Post by Daryl Miller on Mar 6, 2013 11:52:09 GMT -5
Cant believe no one mentioned Oputz!!
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Post by John Milne on Mar 6, 2013 12:16:25 GMT -5
Cant believe no one mentioned Oputz!! Well played sir.
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