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Post by John Milne on Apr 16, 2013 0:15:06 GMT -5
This Euro hook would require a lot more base hook strength and not a good option for the example stated I don't think.
A great move none the less.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Apr 16, 2013 11:02:48 GMT -5
Tim B again first I feel sorry for the pullers that dont think they or anyone can evole!! if you dont change or learn new things your not going anywere in this sport !!!!!!! Jon M is very much write if you want to know how to hook or learn anything new just go to practice and do it again and again when i make a major change it takes me 6 mpouths to a year to get were it feels write and strong and in always learning and changeing!!!!!!!
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Apr 16, 2013 12:07:25 GMT -5
EURO HOOK? to funny....
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Post by Nathan (Natroan) Harrison on Apr 16, 2013 14:38:17 GMT -5
I guess i would have to say with this guy being a hardcore tr that he is prob better off staying there because by the time that guy would be able to get a hook like he would need to compete he would be able to retire!!!lol. just my opinion
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Post by John Wilson on Apr 16, 2013 15:36:30 GMT -5
I don't claim to have a great hook, but I can hang Lefty. This isn't about me, I only bring it up to say that I can relate to this problem.
If hooking hurts you a lot more than toprolling, I suggest you are doing it wrong. I say that because until I learned to hook properly, I had one or two good hooks in me and then my arm was toast.
What I learned is that to hook effectively, I must commit to the move. I must get mean and nasty mentally and I must believe that I am the aggressor. Without that key mental component, I get complacent and I lose a few degrees on my wrist, my rotator, etc and then I lose control.
Hooking requires you to commit 100%. There is very little room to wait and see what happens. Even when there isn't much movement, you have to fight with pressures and angles every second. Unlike the toproll where a guy loses his hand and has to move his whole body to get back into position, in a hook he only has to get back a few degrees on his wrist / move you off center / get back on top. It happens very quickly. You cannot be complacent.
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Post by Erick "Zap" Szczap on Apr 16, 2013 17:03:16 GMT -5
Very good post.
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Apr 16, 2013 17:51:50 GMT -5
Like any other technique in this 'sport' there r ways to perform it, same as hooknig...And it seems to me the only ones who have elbow pain when hooking, r TOPPERS...obviously its the way your applying it...
HOOKING is very EASY, BUT u also NEED strength, AND an OPEN MIND to what muscles r used CORRECTLY in AWing and get away with whats been "taught" over the last 30-40 yrs...
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Post by John Schnell on Apr 16, 2013 18:03:05 GMT -5
EURO HOOK? to funny.... You of all people should know what I'm talking about. You and Milne are some of the only guys who've actually pulled Europeans in Europe! If your foot ends up pushing off the backside post of an armwrestlong table, you might be a euro hooker ;D
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Post by John Schnell on Apr 16, 2013 18:05:41 GMT -5
Perfect example!
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Post by John Parton on Apr 16, 2013 18:11:28 GMT -5
I think why Christian was joking is that hook has been around for a long time perhaps longer than there has been pullers in Eorupe. If done properly a hook puts far less strain on the elbow than a toproll or shoulder roll, so as John said you might need to change up a little bit. As far as high hook or low hook for me it would depend on the length of the arm I am pulling. For instance if I have someone with a short forearm and I have to set my elbow way back it is far faster and easier to just sweep sideways before they can aplly the better hook lever of the shorter arm. If only I got to practice these things like I used to!
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Post by John Schnell on Apr 16, 2013 18:19:11 GMT -5
I agree, my elbows never hurt. It shocks me when teammates complain of pain, not fatigue, in the elbows after hooking. Have never experienced that after my first couple months of conditioning
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Post by Robert Miller on Apr 16, 2013 19:01:36 GMT -5
Agreed John.. my elbows used to kill me during my first year pulling in a hook. Now in my 3rd year it doesn't hurt nowhere near as bad as it used to... I must be doing it right!
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Post by Rick Laton on Apr 16, 2013 20:23:51 GMT -5
I guess i would have to say with this guy being a hardcore tr that he is prob better off staying there because by the time that guy would be able to get a hook like he would need to compete he would be able to retire!!!lol. just my opinion I'm coming for you boy! Keep running that lip! No, keep up the smack talk. Something has got to keep me excited!
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Post by Nathan (Natroan) Harrison on Apr 17, 2013 11:46:03 GMT -5
the best thing to do is to get yourself a rope and a tree and just keep tring to pull that tree down with your arm close to your body then if that guy want to try to go inside with a hooker he might just might have a chance after about three years i recommend starting off with a freshly planted pine tree they should give alittle
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Post by Rick Laton on Apr 17, 2013 12:59:16 GMT -5
the best thing to do is to get yourself a rope and a tree and just keep tring to pull that tree down with your arm close to your body then if that guy want to try to go inside with a hooker he might just might have a chance after about three years i recommend starting off with a freshly planted pine tree they should give alittle You ain't right boy!
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