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Post by Pete & Tim on Mar 8, 2015 11:15:13 GMT -5
Tim B again Nate put on another great show smooth well put together, much thanks can't wait for next one! As for deb banain, this women is by far the worst sport and most vile women I've ever met! She put herself out there as a crusader for womens armwresling,yet at maine states she poses and held till she quit a 17 year old novice girl who left table in tears becouse she was so inbarist!! I think she must think this is the way to keep the new girls in the sport!! I've talk to many of the women who have BEATEN her and have read her pushy posts about haveing more things for women at each show, most of the girls can't stand the (wo face antics of this women evan her team mates for the most part have nothing good to say about her,in short she's out for herself not the other ladies in the sport!! P.S. Go ahead loud mouth fire back but first look inside to see the real you not very pretty
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Post by Debbie Banaian on Mar 8, 2015 17:10:05 GMT -5
Tim B again,
This post almost makes me feel bad for you. I thought if nothing else you would at least have the guts enough to confront a little girl, face to face when given an opportunity. Especially one that you describe as so vile. So vile in fact that you were disgusted by how I treated another competitor. YET, even with the inherent chance for more damage to this competitor you thought it okay to allow my monster to continue to unleash on her? Even when you knew we had more matches? You still would not confront it? Now who is the monster? In fact, you thought it would be better to wait and post the outrage here on the board where nothing could be done to assist this young lady you are so fond of? The truth is if you had any legitimate issue with me the perfect opportunity for resolution for an injustice would have been when I went out on a limb and asked if we might call it truce. As recently as yesterday you had no idea what I could be referring to even when I tried yet another two times. Just for the record Tim, you don't like me because I question decades of arm wrestling practice. Questioning is the beginning to progress and you like the way it is. Sometimes it is hard for some people to accept change and they take it personally. I'm sorry it upsets you that I want more and that I wont sit quietly. In fact, I have the audacity to sometimes even ask a tournament director what the weight classs are before traveling 5 hours to their tournament. I refuse to mention that pullers name that you referred to but since she has sought me out on FB and friend requested me, she took many pictures with me after the tournament, and I have the match on video and no she didn't cry during my match but she was frustrated. My guess is that she was frustrated because you had expectations that she was going to beat me (as you so stated previously). Isn't it true that she competed amateur and pro? I did not compete amateur Tim. Therefore it was a pro match that you refer to. Let me remind you what you advised this competitor to do... QUIT! "JUST LET GO!" If she was upset it was at the lack of direction you gave her when she was trying to hold me, as if you had given up on her. Feel free to post as you will BUT for goodness sake don't use others to try to get back at me, and please don't give up on her or anyone else. She is a really good arm wrestler and had a plythera of strategies up her sleeve, trying one at a time, determined. Those that know me, know better. Those that do not it doesn't really matter does it? So that we are clear, I will continue to promote women's armwrestling. I think women have a place in the sport even if that makes me evil in your eyes. As for my team, I am sure they appreciate you having their back however if Badger Drewes had a problem with me or for a minute thought I was the person you describe I just don't see him putting up with it. My bet is anyone that knows Badger would NOT take him for a man who wouldn't stand up to someone. Maybe I'm mistaken, I have been before (like yesterday when I thought we might be able to be civil in the future.) Good day Tim B again and if it is all the same with you, considering how vile I am, let this be the last we need to speak to one another until you choose to bury the hatchet because from what I can tell this isn't good for anyone or the sport.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Mar 8, 2015 18:02:59 GMT -5
Tim B again I did confront you I told you what I thought of you, evan told your husband I was sorry you we're his wife,I figured you would come out with some bull to mask that you. Treat your fellow women like crap. When you lose you throw fits, then you treat a girl at her second turney like you did then try to be nice later. Let's hope some day a half way decent human will come out of you but I don't think that will evver happen!!!!! Like I said your vile only way I can think to describe you and your way of treating people!!!!!
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Post by Nate Gagnon on Mar 8, 2015 19:05:18 GMT -5
Tim, thanks for the kind words and positive feedback on my event--I appreciate you and your whole team making the trip up, thanks for the support and hopefully we see you guys in June!!
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Post by John Milne on Mar 8, 2015 19:21:51 GMT -5
Oh I'm gonna follow this thread.
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Post by Debbie Banaian on Mar 8, 2015 20:32:01 GMT -5
Tim, you are a classic bully, Nothing of what you say is true, and nobody will speak up like in most situations of serious bullies, until it is too late. They will acknowledge some of what you say but why confront the beast if they aren't attacking them directly. Unfortunately, I'm not made that way and am doing best to not judge anyone that feels they need to cower. Most will come and read this, follow this but nobody will confront your bs in FEAR of becoming your next target because there is no personal gain in doing so, or in fear that because you've belonged to the community for as long as you have that you have an unfair advantage, you absolutely do and should when used well but this is not acceptable. Obviously it is your high. To be honest, you sound like.your blood pressure is sky rocketing and you are a LOT scary and may be a touch psychotic. I'd rather die fighting than put up with your filth.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Mar 8, 2015 21:12:28 GMT -5
Tim B again once again you deflect what you did and do wit uter BULL SH1T I do know who I am I told you in the begining you should take a close look at yourself!!! People that no you put up with you for some reason but they do speak ill of you and no matter were you go you leave people with a bad taste that's why your own husban won't stick up for you, why dodnt you try whati did ask around about me you will find a lot of my freinds sad to say that wasn't case when I askes about you not evan from your team mates, so look deep and you will find the fear of your self be hated!!!!
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Post by Dean Banaian on Mar 8, 2015 21:55:40 GMT -5
Tim B,
You’ve dragged me into this now with your misrepresentation of the facts as part of your attack on my wife’s character. I’d be inclined to ignore this stuff just based on the nature of the whole dispute, YOU really care about how women are treated at Armwrestling tournaments? That seems laughable to start with but you keep coming back to it to deride Debbie’s character and the nature of her intentions. As far as yesterday goes it looks like the power of your memory is just as challenged as your skills in perception. You were at Thatcher’s for hours yesterday while I was either sitting with Debbie, or filming her matches or she was filming mine. In fact the bulk of the little time we weren’t together was when she was working with other women coaching them up on the sport which she is so “in for just herself” for. Yet after all that time together you asked me who I was cheering for. Not too perceptive there, but that’s fine. The issue with your memory comes next as when I told you I was Debbie’s husband and you responded with nothing. NOW you’re “saying” you told me you were sorry Debbie is my wife, NOW, but not then. I think your memory is failing you because I know you didn’t say that then. Fast forward a couple hours later, Deb walks over to you while you are talking to some other people standing next to me and she asks if you’d like to call a truce, looking to squash your beef. It seems the way you remember it is you told her what you thought of her when in fact you acted like you have no idea what she’s talking about, no beef to squash from the sounds of it. No beef until you get in front of the keyboard and compose your latest thread “Maine states. + deb”. I’m attributing it to memory because why else would you be…I don’t know…afraid to say what you really thought then? That would be sad.
Bottom line is I’m not sorry Debbie is my wife, I consider myself really very lucky. Is she intense at the table? Is she vocal about trying to get equal treatment for women in a sport that is very male dominant, and unwilling to bite her tongue when nearly everyone else would choose to? Phuck yeah. But she is putting her time and energy and resources where mouth is, not just begging for something everybody tells her women don’t have coming. Sounds like there is a problem in there somewhere for you, don’t have a clue what that is and don’t really care. You just needed some fact checking.
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Post by Debbie Banaian on Mar 8, 2015 22:19:58 GMT -5
Tim,
Keep your pants on big boy. When you are not able to rattle mey cage you begin to slowly try to get between an amazing team and attack the character of others. Could it be that you are just that angry about having lost the meet to Granite Arms hence you'll try to make division between their members, between Maine and Granite Arms? Your bait is wasted here. Keep this between you and I and your mommy if you feel so inclined. You should know I've thrown and taken my own punches, always. Nobody needs to come to my defense because I'm not losing anything. I'll continue to encourage women to arm wrestle. I may ask about weight classes, and I'll continue to train and weight train in hopes that one day I have the clout that you do to use for the benefit of the sport. Now seriously, let's call this truce because from what I can tell, you are mad that your competitor didn't beat me. I held her, she held her own and it wasn't good enough for you. It wasn't about her either, it was about you and I and you let that get in the way. I didn't slam her, in fact I enjoyed pulling with her. She and I are offical "FB Friends" so leave her out of this too and don't bait them to come into our issue. In fact if you really feel strongly about this, what about making all other correspondence in private? I'm extending yet another olive branch, if you don't want to take it that's on you. Please spare the rest of the armwrestling nation from your wrath.
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Post by John Milne on Mar 8, 2015 23:10:08 GMT -5
(not fooled)
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Post by John Milne on Mar 8, 2015 23:17:21 GMT -5
and... I love Tim's (w)rath
for the record
Not to be outdone, I enjoy reading your posts as well Mrs. Banaian.
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Post by Seth Barnett on Mar 9, 2015 8:14:26 GMT -5
Nate, your tournaments keep getting better, Thatcher's was packed! There were so many amateurs Saturday that we had to hold the pro classes to try and catch up, that seems pretty positive to me. Especially with the amount of classes that you had, women and kids and we all got out of there on time. You're a real pro Nate and Team Dungeon appreciates all you do.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Mar 9, 2015 8:28:51 GMT -5
Tim B again facts are spot on I was standing next to you ask you if this one women was your and you said no its the one you don't like and I said Oh I'm sorry for you!!!! Exact words Tuff guy I was two feet from you and you jsut smiled so that's that fact. The other is that after Imbarassing lexey ( and that is all this is about) I said what I thought of her loud and two or three times,then she comes up and makes a comment to me infront of lexey about she hopes I had train other women better,so when I laughed at end when she ask to squash it, to means I was afraid of what speaking my mind, no this is to show what kind of a person she is. So go ahead come up with more crap to try and cover that fact, or be decent and appoligize to lexey for being an asshle!!!!
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Post by John Milne on Mar 9, 2015 9:25:18 GMT -5
First one to say it.. this has "Thread of the Year" written all over it. I know it's an early runner but I'm loving it.
And before speculation occurs, I do NOT have anything better to do right now, I admit to loving drama and I acknowledge I should be minding my own business..... but hey, this is great television.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Mar 9, 2015 10:34:05 GMT -5
Tim B again john your thoughts are always welcome, and if more people in this sport would stand up for what's right we could have a great sport without bull
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