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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 2, 2005 16:33:09 GMT -5
Pope John Paul II Died.
Please pray for the Roman Catholic Church.
Please pray for the next Pope.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Apr 2, 2005 17:38:00 GMT -5
Gee you christians are something.
Does anyone else remember when Princess Diana was killed in that car crash. All the media and the tabloids go absolutely crazy over the story.
But.
Wasn't it a few days later that Mother Theresa died?
So much for Princess Di's 15 minutes.
Fast Forward to 2005.
Terry Shiavo loses battle with government and husband, her feeding tube is taken out and she passes from starvation and dehydration. It is a media frenzy. Worldwide, everyone goes crazy. Some feel bad some hate the husband some the government.
Oh
Wait
Here come the Christians
Pope John Paul II Dead!!!
Terry Who?
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 3, 2005 0:42:28 GMT -5
I can tell you what i believe is going to happen with the position of the pope. but i decided to simply say pray for the next pope. I could tell you why i said to pray for the catholic church but i decided to simply say. pray for the church. But i guess since one person died two days agao the world has to be put on hold. No one else can die right? Not till were done morning and justice is done. WHATEVER that garbage. The pope is a man that millions of people look up to as a man of God, honestly I AM NOT ONE OF THEM. But Imagine the power of the catholic church in the whole world and their most beloved leader dies. This is a very fragile state for the whole world we all need to pray. Yes continue to pray for the other situation. but its out of our hands. All we can do is pray not dwell on it. The situation with the pope will affect us all. Those who are Catholic and those who are not. And even EVERYONE ELSE. Im not going to go into why i say all this due to the fragility (if thats a word) of the situation. But if anyone is interested in my perception of this PM me. We all need to pray. Edwin that did seem pretty anti-semitist. There may be some jews incontrol of al that but i believe its another source behind them even. But i wont go into that again
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Post by Bill Maenza on Apr 3, 2005 5:11:47 GMT -5
I have deleted my previous post as it seems that I fell for the post of Ryan's. Silly me.
Ryan, don't use the death of the Pope for your grandstanding. Keep the Catholic Church out of your posts. I am certain that the board has truly gotten bored of our posts back and forth.
I am offering a challenge to you, winner take all. Ryan vs. Bill - one stays one goes. Winner gets the ability to continue posting, the other does not. I am willing to live with the loss if necessary, are you? This is probably necessary as one day we will meet. If our conversations continue at this pace, it is going to be a very ugly meeting.
If you accept the challenge you can post it, or I will. The members can vote.
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Post by Scott Latella on Apr 3, 2005 7:54:55 GMT -5
I Vote that Both you stay.. Because two people don't aggree is no reason to go. Everyone has different views due to how they are molded from the life they have led. Maybe we can learn from something they say or not, maybe something that seems wrong at the time you read it becomes right later in life when your life path changes. Either way the more we can take in and learn from others may (or not) be priceless. Or Not..
My 2 Cents
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Post by Bill Maenza on Apr 3, 2005 8:13:39 GMT -5
Thanks Scott. Ryan and I seem to have a problem communicating though. Hopefully I don not come across as self-righteous as he does. I don't mean or claim to.
But when you have a guy like Ryan who is now more knowledgable in bible and teachings of the church than the Pope, well that is going just a bit too far. Maybe he can be a special advisor to the next one!
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Post by Dan Fortuna on Apr 3, 2005 8:39:57 GMT -5
Nice job Scott,
I hate Ryans post and think if any thing he makes people run from his ideas.But he has right as annoying as they are to post them. Edwin, wats up dude has not being in a big city and going to collage tought you any thing? "And another thing. I am not an anti-semitist." "The wholoe world sees what the jewish mass wants them to see example: you dont see ANYTHING coming from Isreal. You never see footage of an isrweali killing palestinians, only the other way around. This is for all of america to be brainwashed, and to see that isreal is the good guy, and the "dirty muslims" are the bad guy" That is the most racist thing I ever read on this board your anger speaks loader than your words. " There is Soooooooo much that none of you know about ". I know you think you have all the answers and everyone else is left in the dark but just realise this you are exposed to the same information we all are.Why be so limited and pick views that play to your anger and fears? Try not to get offended by this I truly mean well I just hate when people group anything into one class. Its extreamly hurfull and dated. Just my opinion.
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Post by Joe Bacca on Apr 3, 2005 8:55:35 GMT -5
This society is strongly influenced by 3 major things... 3- RELIGION... 2- POLITICS... & the thing that sells the most... #1- SEX !
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Post by Bill Maenza on Apr 3, 2005 9:11:38 GMT -5
Sad but true Harry.
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Post by Jeremy Plaster on Apr 3, 2005 10:56:46 GMT -5
I personally thought Farenhype 911 was a much better and more accurate film myself. And I could care less who controls the media. I have eyes to read and a brain to think and reason with. Noone tells me what to think, even the "jewish controled media".
Bill, no reason for either of you to go bro, just dont get involved with posts that will upset you. I'd hate to see you leave the board if it came down to that. I understand your point completely so dont think I dont. I just hate to see a good person leave over another person thinking they are all knowing in their beliefs. let him continue to use his infinate wisdom in his inaccurate posts. If you let that make you mad enough to leave this board.. You just let him win. Know what I mean? I think he likes getting to you.
Talk to you soon! J
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Post by Bill Maenza on Apr 3, 2005 11:02:17 GMT -5
J, Man, you are the voice of reason! See you soon, Bill
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Post by Pete & Tim on Apr 3, 2005 12:27:08 GMT -5
I am offering a challenge to you, winner take all. Ryan vs. Bill - one stays one goes. Winner gets the ability to continue posting, the other does not. I am willing to live with the loss if necessary, are you? This is probably necessary as one day we will meet. If our conversations continue at this pace, it is going to be a very ugly meeting. If you accept the challenge you can post it, or I will. The members can vote. Kick his A S S Bill and get him off the board!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Apr 3, 2005 12:45:27 GMT -5
Jews control just about everything? Maybe others should emphesis EDUCATION and strive to do better then others above everything else to THEIR children as they grow up, ( I sure am ), so their children can be successful.
MANY HATERS ON THOSE THAT SUCCEED..... Typical!
Edwin, I don't know what news groups you watch, but the ones I watch show Isrealis attacking Palestinians all the time.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 3, 2005 13:32:23 GMT -5
Bill, I think you misunderstood me. Maybe. What part of your own concept of "agreeing to disagree" dont you understand? I am not posting negative and did not post negative if i did i apologize. I simply stated that i do not look to the pope as my authority in any matter. That is al i was saying and that is all im going to say. It is you who persisted a while back that we agree to disagree. Im ok with that. Are you? Again i pray for you and the catholic church. As you mourn your loss. And I pray for the next pope. May God Bless you Bill.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Apr 3, 2005 13:43:06 GMT -5
I will not submit to such a chalenge.
My post are obviously not the majority favorite. Im not going to stop speaking my mind and my heart because you dont agree with me. And because everyone else hates me. If Kurt wants to kick me off the board thats his business. Its his board. I will never promise anyone i will shut up for the sake of their comfort and or pleasure. I speak the things i speak for a reason. And guess what........Its not my "conspiring agenda"
Do i say you oughta stop posting because i dont agree with you? Post all you like. It dont make a difference to me.
If you wana "fight" me when we meet. Well then. Pray. I dont wanna fight and i will not fight you. I sure hope your better led by the spirit than that.
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