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Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 11, 2006 19:08:47 GMT -5
;D
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 12, 2006 14:37:51 GMT -5
some people may have lost their values and their honours,but it does not mean that they can humiliate other's values and harast them and then say " it is just a joke,calm down".
your rights are your rights,and others rights are their rights.things that seem normal to you may not seem normal to the others.so the best thing is not attacking to the other's values and humiliate them under the sick democracy game.someone needs to blame the thief instead of the owner who shot the thief.
but im sure that most of you can not understand this since you grew up with the understanding that your culture has.so PLEASE!!! quit bringing the subject to other's sensitivities when it has nothing to do with it.two fights,and then make peace by finding someone else guilty when he has nothing to do with the subject.
all the sh.t starts like this.keep your nose on your own business because not everyone takes life as simple as some does.what some people are doing now is wrong,but they are harasted.they are not entering other's country for oil and raping the women,and treating the men like animals front of their families in their own country.so PLEASE again,please quit bringing the subjects to the points that it has nothing to do with the thread.PLEASE!!
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Post by Matl'e McDaniel on Feb 12, 2006 15:55:08 GMT -5
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Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 12, 2006 18:02:34 GMT -5
Engin,
Whatever problems Matle and I had, have been settled. Because of our individual desires to make peace with each other.
Noone used your religion or anyone elses religion to take the focus off the subject.
I apologize if you have taken offense to anything in this argument. It certainly wasnt anyones intent.
If this is about the comment made by someone about killing people over a cartoon. I would hope that you arent justifying the actions of those rioters.
Surley people shouldnt draw pictures offending your religion like that, personally i havent seen them. But that is no reason to riot in the streets and kill people.
People in america blow up abortion clinics and kill doctors that perform abortions.......we deem the pshycotic.
We disagree with the abortion issue......this is an issue far more serious than an insulting cartoon. but it is still wrong to murder people like that.
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Post by Johnny Edwards on Feb 12, 2006 18:35:09 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 13, 2006 4:08:16 GMT -5
Ryan,
you just showed example of the extremists in your country too,so when you can find extremists around yourself there is no need to show examples from thousands of miles away,esspecially if they have nothing to do with the subject of this thread.
again you decide what is more serious for you,but you can not decide what is more serious for the other people.for them their faith and their values are much more important than their own lives.we all born and we all die,and we were not asked about when and where to be borned,and again we will not be asked about when and where to die.those people do not put their hopes in this temporary life,but in hereafter.so they give up on their own lives to receive everlasting life.so when you try to understand this you will realise that they are very sensitive about their faiths.
no im not defending the extreming behavings,im only saying that you must realise that some people are harasting them to create a war between the civilizations.so if you are judging those people,then save some of the judgment for the people who are faithless and do not mind to attack on other's faith.because they have no values,they are like animals.they have no values,money can buy,control and use them.
when you can find extremists around yourselves then there is no need to travel thousands of miles away to find an example for extremists.
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Post by TK on Feb 13, 2006 7:56:30 GMT -5
I said it once and i'll say it again.... if you're looking for a battle you'll find one...... TK
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 13, 2006 11:00:41 GMT -5
if you're looking for a battle you'll find one......I'm with Todd on this one.
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Post by Matl'e McDaniel on Feb 13, 2006 11:38:55 GMT -5
we don't need another war on our hands
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Post by Ron Bath on Feb 13, 2006 12:30:18 GMT -5
Engin, I will only respond cause I feel you were referring to my post. I was not condonning the pictures by no means. though I also don't condone the violence either no matter where it is. Any religion even christianity that proclaims to be of peace doesn't need to resort to violence.
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Post by TK on Feb 13, 2006 13:14:18 GMT -5
Amen
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Feb 13, 2006 14:00:26 GMT -5
Engin: Don't quite get your condescending posts on this page?
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Post by TK on Feb 13, 2006 15:18:07 GMT -5
actually i thought this was a Matl'e vs Ryan thread myself...lol.......Maybe Engin should start another thread maybe....seems he has issues that doesn't pertain to this thread......
cos he sure confused the hell out of me...lol
TK
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Post by TK on Feb 13, 2006 15:46:41 GMT -5
Religion & violence do they go together? TK
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Feb 13, 2006 18:10:24 GMT -5
Edwin: As usual you are regurgetating BS...Its amazing at what, 21-22 you are so worldly....Oh yeah this is the computer age, everything on it is truthful.....
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