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Post by enginterzi on Feb 14, 2006 11:08:40 GMT -5
Todd,
not US but there are some stronger people who also controls US has planned to confort their presence in mideast.that is what i believe.there are so many inconsistants about presenting the 9-11 terror attacks in the way that they have presented.
i have to get my baggage packed,so take care.i must focus on my competetion on saturday.im already stressed enough and i better relax a bit.
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 14, 2006 11:37:21 GMT -5
wow, wow wow, i wasn't defending anyone.I was just stating how they are seen by the media.......and yes Jews do have a controling interest in all american media, however its not hard for me anyway to watch live feeds and come to my own conclusions.
Heres what I conclude.
1. Both parties are greedy and need to stop fighting over an insignificant pece of land. 2.Both parties are terrorists because of their malicioud guerilla war fare tactics. 3.Maybe if they could respect one another long enough to stop fighting the could come to a conclusion. 4. Jews bought land and started building up the Jewish community there. They were met with increasingly violent opposition from the Palestinian Arabs, presumably stemming from the Arabs’ inherent anti-Semitism. The Zionists were then forced to defend themselves and, in one form or another, this same situation continues up to today.
The problem with this explanation is that it is simply not true, as the documentary evidence in this booklet will show. What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible. Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).
The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine. Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (Over 1200 years)
In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter. The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.
One further point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic. We do not believe that the Jews acted worse than any other group might have acted in their situation. The Zionists (who were a distinct minority of the Jewish people until after WWII) had an understandable desire to establish a place where Jews could be masters of their own fate, given the bleak history of Jewish oppression. Especially as the danger to European Jewry crystalized in the late 1930’s and after, the actions of the Zionists were propelled by real desperation.
But so were the actions of the Arabs. The mythic “land without people for a people without land” was already home to 700,000 Palestinians in 1919. This is the root of the problem, as we shall see.
So IMO Palestine started this, the Jews bought the land.............end of story it wasn't designated as Palestian Heritage property, if that had been the case then the palastinians would have a leg to stand on.
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 14, 2006 11:39:11 GMT -5
Heres the website Engin that i got # 4 from. Take a look, lemme know what you think.http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html
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Post by TK on Feb 14, 2006 11:53:29 GMT -5
a lot of info TY.....
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Post by Ty Kissner on Feb 14, 2006 13:53:00 GMT -5
trying to end this subject Todd, but it'll probably start a larger debate.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 14, 2006 18:24:32 GMT -5
I love Jesus and i pray for the peace of Isreal
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Post by Edwin Safarian on Feb 15, 2006 14:21:37 GMT -5
You should pray for peace everywhere, not just Israel.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Feb 15, 2006 18:25:53 GMT -5
Well i do.
But the bible tells me to specifically pray for the peace of Isreal. And God will bless those who bless Isreal.
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Post by TK on Feb 16, 2006 9:17:44 GMT -5
God bless you all.... TK
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Post by enginterzi on Feb 17, 2006 5:27:29 GMT -5
GOD bless you all..
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