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Post by Denise Wattles on Dec 14, 2006 19:20:43 GMT -5
My earlier post was obviously moved. Heavy Duty Awards has supplied awards to our "extended family" of Armwrestlers at close to cost for many years. Leonard has trusted that the people in our "extended family" would be true to their word and pay their bills for their awards & shirts. Many of the Armwrestlers we supply awards for we have never met including Pete Milano BUT we trusted him. Now we are the bad guys for exposing their short-comings. The page will stay up and will continue to expose those that can not be trusted. How else are the other suppliers going to get the information so they don't get stuck too? When the accounts are paid in full the name will be removed. This is no different than names being posted on reader boards outside businesses when a bad check has been received OR when a business posts the NSF check on a bulletin board for all to see. If you pay your bills you don't have to be concerned about any of the above. The only thing Heavy Duty Awards is guilty of is TRUSTING those who do not deserve it. Do you know how many non-armwrestling customers owe us past due amounts...NONE
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Post by Pete & Tim on Dec 14, 2006 19:41:09 GMT -5
Well I hope my name burns itself onto your screen Denise. You are moraly wrong for what you did and I really don't care what you guys what to write about me. I just find it funny that other people have owed you guys for longer than I have and now you decide to do this.
Let me help you with your mission Denise.....
ATTENTION WORLD, PETE OWES PEOPLE MONEY!!!!!!! HE IS A DEADBEAT AND LEONARD AND DENISE HAVE TO TELL YOU!!!!! PETE OWES MONEY!!!!!!!! DON'T TRUST PETE!!!!!!!!
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Post by Pete & Tim on Dec 14, 2006 19:42:15 GMT -5
Hey Kurt, move this thread too, no one cares!!!!!!!
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Post by larryrehfeld on Dec 14, 2006 19:46:18 GMT -5
Denise,
You should be embarrased that you brought your private business to the public eye. It is inapropriate in every aspect. Your personal business should remain so. You and Leonard should be extremely embarresed abd hopefully one of these folk will sue your ass for defamation.
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Post by Denise Wattles on Dec 14, 2006 19:49:07 GMT -5
Morally Wrong Morally wrong is ordering something you do not intend to pay for. The track record (which you provided) may have been helpful if we had known your reputation ahead of time.
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Post by larryrehfeld on Dec 14, 2006 19:52:04 GMT -5
Denise and Leonard are idiots. They should had kept this private. Pete, you can sue these folks for defamation, we will talk tommorow. They have no legal right to post your debt on the internet unless they have an agreement with you that states if you don pay, they will post your name on the internet, That is why Credit Reporting Agencies exist, because they are a non biased source of information. I will help you with the information asap. Travis, I would suggest the same thing since we all know what happened with your tshirts.
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Post by Denise Wattles on Dec 14, 2006 19:52:42 GMT -5
Larry, Heavy Duty Awards is a public business selling to many that DO pay their bills. Are you really defending Pete's actions? Would you take his word and trust him knowing what we do now?
PS - Defamation is when something is said that isn't true. FYI
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Post by Pete & Tim on Dec 14, 2006 19:59:03 GMT -5
My track record? Those are my bills!!!!
I never intended to pay?
Up to this point I have had every intention on paying and I still do. Why would accuse me of not wanting to pay? Why, because I can't pay by Leonard's time frame that he gave me? Too bad. That is what late fees are for.
I still don't understand what you think you will accomplish by doing all this. I'm not gonna pay you any faster. I'll still pay ALL of my bills, and you guys will still be idiots.
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Post by Pete & Tim on Dec 14, 2006 20:03:36 GMT -5
Defamation would be you saying I have no intention on paying and me repeatedly saying that I am going to.
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Post by larryrehfeld on Dec 14, 2006 20:04:42 GMT -5
Post the contract that says you will publicly humiliate anyone who doesnt pay, with PETE'S Signiture and I will take it back. Unless you have a signed contract that specifically state a set time period in writting, I am taking Petes side. As A matter of fact, I would take his side over yours or your super sidekick leonard anytime. Show me the contract!!!! Pete said he will pay you, then he will. It is not his fault a sponsor backed out. He will pay you the rest of the money as soon as he can. Ny the way, I like how you didnt metion the new additions to your site, just that you had them. That tells me you had a moral dilema about even putting it up. You should had followed your gut instinct!!!!
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Post by Frank "The PREZ" Hirst on Dec 14, 2006 20:06:57 GMT -5
Sue! Sue! Sue! then Ill get paid!!!!! Thanks Denise
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Post by larryrehfeld on Dec 14, 2006 20:07:50 GMT -5
Maybe they should put Gary and ArmTv on the Bad list
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Post by Frank "The PREZ" Hirst on Dec 14, 2006 20:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by Denise Wattles on Dec 14, 2006 20:49:23 GMT -5
I guess someone giving you their word that they will pay and trusting someone is, unfortunately, a thing of the past. Has the World really come to pre-payment and COD for EVERYONE when something is ordered? You guys seem full of advice..What would you do when someone wants to order something and they want to pay after the event?
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Post by Pete & Tim on Dec 14, 2006 20:49:37 GMT -5
A quote from Denise's first post....
"Do you know how many non-armwrestling customers owe us past due amounts.... NONE"
Denise from your above quote along with this years banning of Gary Roberts ( who is obviously trying to grow our sport) along with other actions this past year. It's becoming extremely obvious your lack of respect for the general armwrestling public because I am sure a big chunk of your business is from twenty five years of profiting from the armwrestling community. So to insinuate the only people that screw you over in business are the armwrestlers is a slap in the face to the very people who put food on your table and help you pay your bills. It may be time to get down from your ivory tower and show a little more gratitude to the people for whom without you would be just another scmho, doing silk screening out of the back of your house that no one ever heard of or cares about.
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