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Post by BigDaddyJoe™ on Dec 15, 2006 9:31:38 GMT -5
Very nice Shane, I like what you wrote.
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Post by Chris Coletti on Dec 15, 2006 9:32:10 GMT -5
Carey, Your welcome! Even though I really don't think I paid you! Just like Pete and Ray say..."Rather owe you than screw you out of it!"
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Post by Vic Sargent on Dec 15, 2006 9:36:33 GMT -5
Ok I'm sure this will set some people off but here I go anyways.. How many people on this board realise that one of Kurts very first links on this board was to Awards of Elegance.. This shop is incredible and truly appreciates the business alot of people from this board have sent him...I sat with him and explained the dillema many promoters have in our sport and he was very understanding of our plight. So much so that his package prices where/are better than most you can find on the internet..I know Kurt, Harry Bean, Chris Gangi, Josh Stark and myself have used them. He is as accomadating as is possible and he works with you as far as shipping goes also.. He is also a sports memorabilia shop and you can often work out deals for special prizes and gifts for your tournament as well...Oh yeah and he will usually give you extra armwrestler toppers for your trophies in case any get damaged.. Hell I've gone in there to buy one to replace a broken one that was broken by my kids and he hasn't charged me for one yet... Now that says something to me......
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Post by Gary Roberts on Dec 15, 2006 9:49:45 GMT -5
hEY!! Chris. I thought we were even on that!!! awe man!!
shoot.
gary
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Post by guy on Dec 15, 2006 9:52:16 GMT -5
I owe James Retarides my life!!!! Why did he give you a Quadruple bypass or staple your stomach ??
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Post by guy on Dec 15, 2006 9:59:51 GMT -5
Wow Guys!!!! This is a crazy one here!!!!! Ya know what? When i first started in this sport,I did not have a clue about this message board or Arm TV or any other Arm Wrestling Web Site? I just showed up at a tournament and started meeting arm wrestlers!!!! It was Great!!!!!Arm wrestlers and the people who run our tournaments are some of the Best people i have ever met!!! I mean that! in person i think all of you are wonderful people!!!! But this message board even though i love this board for the most part,I Really think it brings out the ugly side of arm wrestling? If someone who has NO Knowledge of this sport and was looking into it and came across this board i really dont think they would care for it to much? I know i wouldnt?Some of the stuff thats on this board just starts sh!t up with others....And think about it? If We were all at a tournament or dinner or anywhere,,,Just sitting around talking about some of this stuff i really dout it would get this heated? People get brave on this board!! It makes arm wrestling look like a soap opera!!!! Would Gary Roberts been banned from USAA if it was not for this board? No!!!! But thats just my opinion? Does everyone here on this board need to know that ray Jenkins and pete Are behind on their bills?I dont think so? Now Dont get me wrong here I Think Leonard And Denise are Great people!!!!They are very nice people and to me go out of their way to help out!!!They have done a ton to help this sport!!!! Do i think They should get the money that is owed to them?YES i do!!!! Do i think that we all should about who owes who what? No i dont!!!! I didnt say all this to start anymore trouble,,I just want this sport to get where it needs to be!!! And Sh!t like this is just holding us back! We have to all work together to help our sport we love get to where it needs to be!!!!! Hope all works out for both sides!!!!! Shane what you and Vic said makes a lot of sense... But This is a message Board. Message boards have multiple subjects and many people. People have feelings and opinions and some use the board to be funny and for stress relief ( I know I have and got in trouble on another board for doing so LOL ) If I wanted to show a Spenser something about arm wrestling you send them to one of the many good sites ArmTV, etc.. that has controlled substance. And even then if they take the time to glance at this board should also have the intelligence to know this is what it is A message Board. A great one though Kurt and much appreciated by many of us
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Post by guy on Dec 15, 2006 10:10:05 GMT -5
1.) What were you trying to accomplish by posting the names of those whom alledgedly owe you money? 2.) What good did it do for the sport by posting those names and yet again causing more contreversy in the armwrestling world? Fighting right and wrong issues . will never ever work or solve anything. Never has , never will. Take a look at your personal life and see how well everyday issues have worked or how you feel when fighting right and wrongs. Anyway I dint agree with what they Posted, But I can also understand why they did too. Although this was not there main objective but to answer your question above, we are an arm wrestling family and how would they feel if someone on their Bad List did it again to an another arm wrestler or promoter. I'm not saying Pete ( since he is the latest on the list) isn't going to pay or what was said before this post wasn't violated . I'm only saying I understand.
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Post by larryrehfeld on Dec 15, 2006 10:10:43 GMT -5
Larry the mud slinging was started by you. Oh and Pete himself brought it to this board not me or Denise. Yeah, You are correct sir, I posted the names on your website, and I told everyone one this board to hurry to my site for new information. Cmon Leonard, This is exactly what you wanted to happen!!!!The purpose of posting the people that will not pay their bill on our site? The same as anyone else that posts a bad check in his business. So Put their names on the wall of your basement!!!! The credit extended to Pete for the ability to pay for the jackets upon receipt was extended just because of him being in our sport. Take a credit card for security or send him to collections I would not have done that for anyone else let alone giving him the jackets at just above cost. There are so many places to go with this but I would advise you not to So there should be a consequence to him going back on his word and putting me in this position. Handle your business privatly, send him to collections or take him to small claims, like any other businessYour response to Denise and myself has nothing to do with anything other than hate for us. I do not like you, I do not hate you. I do not like anyone who tries to undermine the hardwork of all the armwrestlers and promoters anytime they disagree with denise or leonard. I have had to ask others to stop you from sending me hateful and demeaning emails and PM's in the past and this latest episode is just some more of the same hate for us and anything we do that you can try to bash us for. What comes around goes around. Be a reeal man, take your problems up with the source, I will save you the embarassment of posting the details of what you tried to do. handle your business in private, stop trying to show me up everytime I post an opinion, put on your tournqments, and go about your business. I have only responded to your post over time in a negative fashion because the majority of the time, you are tryimg to cause trouble, like you latest episode. As for you taking down the list until you made sure you had the numbers correct, that just shows your haste and pourpose.
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Post by BigDaddyJoe™ on Dec 15, 2006 10:11:06 GMT -5
I owe James Retarides my life!!!! Why did he give you a Quadruple bypass or staple your stomach ?? No, he told me the funniest story of this guy that use to be great at armwrestling. This guy was on his way to being a LEGEND. Well this guy went ahead just got crappy. Come to think about this guy, his name was, Guy. It was YOU!!!! lol, j/p Your the man Mr. Lasorsa, nothing but respect for you, but SHUT IT, lol I owe you too. For making me want to be a better armwrestler!!!! My debt is bad
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Post by guy on Dec 15, 2006 10:26:29 GMT -5
Why did he give you a Quadruple bypass or staple your stomach ?? No, he told me the funniest story of this guy that use to be great at armwrestling. This guy was on his way to being a LEGEND. Well this guy went ahead just got crappy. Come to think about this guy, his name was, Guy. It was YOU!!!! lol, j/p Your the man Mr. Lasorsa, nothing but respect for you, but SHUT IT, lol I owe you too. For making me want to be a better armwrestler!!!! My debt is bad ;D
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Post by Gary Roberts on Dec 15, 2006 10:30:03 GMT -5
ding ding ding. go to your corners. while your there go watch the Florida State ROTN. It is a great clip with great interviews!!! check it out!! gary www.myarmtv.com
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Post by BigDaddyJoe™ on Dec 15, 2006 10:34:13 GMT -5
Gary owes me for making that plug in the middle of me and Mr. Lasorsa's conversation
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Post by larryrehfeld on Dec 15, 2006 10:34:34 GMT -5
Leonard
Here are some interesting quotes from your previous post and PMS
"I am not in this so called business to make money. I have been armwrestling since 1978. If I was worried about making money this is the last thing I would do."
Why not give pete a little more time
"I not only would never work for your group but I will recomend that others not do so also"
You certainly did, I am glad that people didnt listen to your calls and emails that they not help PAC in anyway, or attend their tournaments
I don’t care what you claim, there is only one World Armwrestling Championship and it is not yours Just an example
But only if you could spell it right (spade) taking it to a personal level, who you always divert when you are in a pinch
I have alot more where that came from, but I think people get the picture....
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Post by BigDaddyJoe™ on Dec 15, 2006 10:37:06 GMT -5
Larry, I must not have the contrast set correctly.........can you post more, because I can't see the picture
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Post by leonard on Dec 15, 2006 10:44:14 GMT -5
Larry, my response in black to my comments to you.
Leonard
Here are some interesting quotes from your previous post and PMS
"I am not in this so called business to make money. I have been armwrestling since 1978. If I was worried about making money this is the last thing I would do." That is true there is a difference in my doing that for my own events and doing that for someone else who I give the product to at just above cost and then after the fact am told that they will pay when they can and I get that statement after 30 days being late.
Why not give pete a little more time I did not authorize giving him the time this was an unauthorized loan. Pete lied to me.
"I not only would never work for your group but I will recomend that others not do so also"
You certainly did, I am glad that people didnt listen to your calls and emails that they not help PAC in anyway, or attend their tournaments I never called anyone and told them to not work for you. Not once, not to anyone and if you think otherwise give me and everyone else a name.
I don’t care what you claim, there is only one World Armwrestling Championship and it is not yours Yes I still believe that. Just an example
But only if you could spell it right (spade) taking it to a personal level, who you always divert when you are in a pinch
I have alot more where that came from, but I think people get the picture.... Keep it coming ;D
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