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Post by Bill Maenza on Jul 5, 2007 20:05:53 GMT -5
Ryan - When you attack what people believe it becomes personal. Maybe not to you, but to the rest of the world.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 5, 2007 20:49:29 GMT -5
Then so be it....
If you find the truth or...my perspective of truth to be an offensive attack.....then i cannot prevent you from being offended.
But i cannot...and WILL NOT...be silent...for the sake of you not being offended.
im sorry.
I get no joy and pride from offending you. I hope you you understand that.
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Post by Bob Paradis on Jul 5, 2007 21:02:35 GMT -5
Bob the statement you made about people loosing there souls for catholic bashing was just plain stupid in my opinion Don't gamble with your soul. Just follow the 10 commandments and treat people with respect. You don't understand Catholicism Robert. The sht that Ryan and Ernie have posted is real trash and historically incorrect. You have no idea. You are not a theologian. If you want to ask me questions in a respectful manner, I'd be happy to answer you. Just love everyone Robert and Jesus will take care of you. And just for the record, it doesn't make you sound smart when you say "I heard," or "someone said." We are searching for truth in scripture or ACTUAL HISTORY. I wish you and your family the best Robert. If your ego makes you think you have the right to Catholic bash, rethink it. If your religion Catholic bashes, find a REAL religion that teaches love. Bob
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Post by Bob Paradis on Jul 5, 2007 21:18:30 GMT -5
Then so be it.... If you find the truth or...my perspective of truth to be an offensive attack.....then i cannot prevent you from being offended. But i cannot...and WILL NOT...be silent...for the sake of you not being offended. im sorry. I get no joy and pride from offending you. I hope you you understand that. So sad.....you have turned out to be so arrogant and so clueless. You can't even comprehend the damage that you are doing. You are the most blinded by pride case I have ever seen. You are in a deep hole right now. Only prayer can get you out. I personally wish you well with your upcoming marriage. Don't raise up a bunch of haters. The world has enough of them. How does anyone in their right mind compare Jimmy Swaggart to a true holy man like Pope John Paul II? How could you follow a prostitute user and not be interested in what a real holy man like John Paul II has to say? How does Satan do this to people? Are sure you want to lead your children to the wolves? You got a lot to think about.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 5, 2007 21:22:54 GMT -5
Don't gamble with your soul. Just follow the 10 commandments and treat people with respect. the law was given to show us that we need Christ ALONE.....you cant follow the ten commandments....if you could....you wouldnt need christ. The sht that Ryan and Ernie have posted is real trash and historically incorrect. thats not very christian behavior......you need to do a rosary. Have you talked to the man in the box about your cussing and drinking problem Bob? You are not a theologian....... If you want to ask me questions in a respectful manner, I'd be happy to answer you. Are you a theologioan with such expertise? You may not find my educational source to be credible because it isnt ordained by the catholic church...but technically i am a bible scholar [ Just love everyone Robert and Jesus will take care of you But if you dont love christ above man and his teachings.....you are lost...regardless of the church you attend We are searching for truth in scripture or ACTUAL HISTORY. only approved by the catholic church tho right? And just for the record, it doesn't make you sound smart when you say "I heard," or "someone said." im not 100% in love with your tone.....you are very condecending and rude. This is evidence of pride. And im sure Robert is offended by your calling him dumb. And just for the record.....it doesnt make you sound smart (theologically) when you lift man or woman above Christ. May God richly bless your life and convict your heart Love, Ryan
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Post by Robert Bishop on Jul 5, 2007 21:23:08 GMT -5
Bob you are such a hypocrite in that you bash Martin Luther and some protestant things and then you have the nerve to turn around and say those that are catholic bashing are in danger of loosing there soul.To me its starting to look like you might be the one who has a pride issue.All i do is look for the truth and present what i know and have heard.Its starting yo seem to me some people would rather have there head stuck in the sand than to find out whats true and right
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 5, 2007 21:24:14 GMT -5
the catholic church covered up child molestors
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 5, 2007 21:26:20 GMT -5
john paul and many popes are guilty pf murder
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Post by Robert Bishop on Jul 5, 2007 21:27:20 GMT -5
There hasnt been only a few cases either
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 5, 2007 21:27:31 GMT -5
bob,
your post are making me nauseous....honestly
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Post by Ian "The Grippler" Carnegie on Jul 5, 2007 21:28:00 GMT -5
the stage is set a arena is hell. christians battleing eachother, while Canada and the U.S lost lives today in the land of ALA. Waite a minute musslems give us infidels enough time and we will kill our own selves.
I was hopeing to use these threads as inspiration??
Grippler out!
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Post by Bob Paradis on Jul 5, 2007 21:29:44 GMT -5
Pete, the Catholic faith has been the joy and goodness in my life. I have wasted a lot of time on some non intellectual, prideful people, defending the faith. They repeat the same old tired anti- Catholic rhetoric in their simple minded Catholic bashing handbooks. They twist and distort scripture. They don't know allegorical from direct speech. They read things into it that aren't there. They even distort history. You are RIGHT, I am nuts. I have wasted so much time on thick headed mules. I want to punch myself for being so stupid.
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Post by Ryan Thames on Jul 5, 2007 21:34:42 GMT -5
twisting scripture?
how?.....where?
show me where......without interpreting scripture....because you arent qualified
you are pushing people away from the catholic church with your condecending methods.......Seek christ above the church........and im gratful for it;)
God bless.
Let it die bob....let it die...
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Post by Bob Paradis on Jul 5, 2007 21:45:56 GMT -5
john paul and many popes are guilty pf murder This is the essence of Ryan Thames. Pope John Paul II is guilty of murder? Wow. I'm done talking to you my friend. You have become a true lunatic following Jimmy Swaggart. So sorry. I've learned my lesson. I have argued with a fool and I have the stench of fool all over me. Pope John Paul II is a friend of Jesus in heaven right now. You are heaping coals upon your head. And you are no Bible scholar. That is a joke. Go back to elementary school and brush up on your English first.
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Post by Mike West on Jul 5, 2007 22:04:08 GMT -5
...Ryan and the churches (most anyway) are teaching the truth from the Word of God (KJV), if that doesn't line up with the Word, then it isn't truth, you just happen to be reading from a book that we as protestants don't read from ( and I personally wouldn't) Mike - why do you feel that it was OK to change the Word of God after nearly 1500 years? Luther did it so it must be right? Well, let's see, I believe that the Bible is God's Word (KJV), and that God is able to protect that Word, which He has done, and I will live my life according to that Word. You go by a book that was taken from God's Word and made for the catholic church by catholicsYeah, and Osama Bin Laden's friends are telling him that America is evil and needs to be destroyed. Maybe friends aren't always right. The friends and family members I'm referring to are catholic.Trust me Mike - people do not become Catholic because it is easier, much the opposite. Maybe not, but it sure fits many of their life styles.pay your tithes to the church, ask the guy in the box to forgive you for what you've done, knowing that you can go back next week and ask him again, that's just not true repentance, I don't think Jesus died on the cross for it to work that way. JMO You are right. It is not that way - at least in the Catholic teachings. I forget which thread it was posted in or who said it, but the basic concept was that if you want to know about someones faith, ask them, don't just stand on your soapbox professing to be all knowing about every faith and denomination out there. Try to be humble. [/quote] I do not and will not ever profess to know it all about any faith or denomination, but when I have people of the catholic faith, telling me the things I've posted, I'm just telling you what I've been told by other catholics.
You'll keep saying we're catholic bashing every time we ask a question or point out a contradiction to the Word of God, then you turn around and tell us that because we believe what we read in our Bible, that we are believing things of satan........does that sound like christian bashing I had a long discussion once with one of my coworkers (who is catholic), we were talking about what the catholic faith believes as far as how you get to heaven, his answers were the same as many I had talked to (refer to my earlier post), then he ask me what I thought about the pope, well I about had to get physical with him (to defend my self) when I told him what the Word of God says, if the pope did not accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour that he would die and go hell just like anyone else.
The problem with all this religion talk is that it isn't about a religion, it's about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, He's your best friend, comforter, healer, Lord and Saviour, and so much more.
Bill posted earlier to my question of asking saints to pray for us, "why not", I ask you, would you go thru someone else to have a talk with your wife, husband, or best friend on a daily basis? I'd hope not, doesn't make for much of a personal relationship does it?
Bob, your warnings for my salvation are nice, I know whose blood has cleansed me, whose Spirit is inside of me, and gives me the Love and concern for the lost to know the Truth
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