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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Jan 25, 2012 15:11:39 GMT -5
Nvrmind, just found the page. And gratz to Karl, way to represent the south!
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Jan 25, 2012 14:58:04 GMT -5
So why isn't there more noise about Karl's win? Just figured it would be a bigger deal.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Jan 13, 2012 21:25:51 GMT -5
Todd H is up 2-1 first two went to fouls. Todd finally got a good grip in round three and smashed sideways.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Nov 7, 2011 18:50:36 GMT -5
Thanks Robby, yea that's unfortunate he's not pulling. Justin was real nice when I met him a year or so ago. He gave me some advice when I had just started and pulled with me after so I was wondering. I know it's not real valid to anyone else but i wanted to kinda judge myself off of how he felt and his ranking. Figured I should explain why I was asking. But I do hope he keeps pulling.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Oct 13, 2011 15:28:20 GMT -5
Lol, we do agree there. A definite win for ole'silver carrying an AK.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Oct 13, 2011 13:29:22 GMT -5
Posted by Shaun Edwards on Today at 1:07pm Today at 12:54pm, Jonathan Skinner wrote: because bears have a difficult time changeing direction. Might want to check your facts about that statement..... Fact checked- m.wikihow.com/Escape-from-a-BearSidestep advances if they're closing in within a relatively short distance (<8 feet). Bears and other 4 legged animals have a wider center of gravity, and hence can't make turns quite as sharp as you or me. Don't just run in circles however, but if engaged in an open area (plains or field), do not run directly away from the bear as they're generally faster. Move left and right where applicable to force the bear to change direction. Do not abuse the bear, however, as it drains vital energy.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Oct 13, 2011 12:54:12 GMT -5
So you think he is going to konk the 1000lbs+ bear on the head, standing half as tall.....because he dodged the bear's (who can cover over 109yds in 6 seconds by the way) rush attack.
The polar is only taller when standing, which is a position he can't move in. If he's rushing the silver he's on all fours and not even 5 ft tall. And yes it's avoidable. If someones in a position to run from a bear they're told to run diagonally because bears have a difficult time changeing direction. Would he avoid it everytime? No. But there's no reason he couldn't most of the time. Just like in football when someone is coming straight at you and they don't split step before getting right on you it's very easy to avoid the tackle by quick lateral motion... This is all theoretical anyways, and that's my opinion based on the "facts" ive read or shown. That's what makes a question anygood in the first place. It's got no definite answer until it's played out. To relate it to something we all know about... How many ppl would have put their paycheck on Tom Nelson beating (flashing) Tim Bresnan? Like I said, impossible to know until it happens. And sometimes the results suprise even the experts.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Oct 13, 2011 12:28:25 GMT -5
Rob, The numbers I put up are on an attacking swipe or swing in the silvers case. Lifting, pulling, or anything else I don't know.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Oct 13, 2011 12:21:22 GMT -5
Your definantly right Arturo about the IQ and tactics. So the silver may not swing on his back and snap his neck but he could certainly avoid polars charge and smash his head a few times. This is something I decided not to mention earlier, but silvers have been recorded while attacking to put out more then 450kg(990lbs), kodiaks at 340kg(748lbs), and polars at 150kgs(330lbs). The polar number seemed to low to me so I doubted if those were acurate. Difficult to tell some times they may be legit. Another thing is that polar bears fight standing up mostly with other bears that also stand up and really can't move well from that position, but a gorillas not going to stand toe to toe with a bear just because he wants it that way( a fight he'd lose no doubt).
Rob, your absolutly right when you say a gorilla would bail if it came to a fight. I think a bear would just as quickly, however if we just left it at that there would be no answers to the question. So we must take out that obvious problem. They live on different continents too, but that fact doesn't help answer the question. So we have to "make" them fight. In which case the gorillas has more options other then simple rush, swing, and roar angrily. And any stats I've found on gorilla strength vs bears the gorilla is ahead. Like I said I figured it was bear all the way at first but with at the least comparable strength, more movement, more options, and(if only a little) more tact, the silver has it. IMO obviously. Either way it would be interesting to see for sure. Maybe the show ultimate warrior will work something out like that sometime. I make a motion that anyone interested send in request for them to run this scenario on the show, lol.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Oct 13, 2011 10:53:00 GMT -5
This question intrigued me, so I decided to look up as much as I could about the two in question. First off between the kodiak or polar the polar equals or betters the kodiak in every catagory so he's the defacto representative of the bear population. While the Eastern lowland gorilla( aka silverback) is the largest and most powerful of the gorillas. So we've got polar bear vs. Silverback, the question who wins. These are some stats not all just some I thought valid. I've compiled from around 8 different sources so they should be accurate. First the polar bear - Largest recorded was 2210lbs at nearly 11ft tall, however the typical or average adult male bear is from 900-1200lbs and standing from 7-9 ft tall. They've been clocked at top speeds around 25 mph over some distance and short distance burst of 30mph. Have large jaws containing 42 specifically designed tearing teeth with larger canines then anyother bear but not those of a fully mature silver. Also the bite strength is weaker then a silvers. Covered in very thick(up to 3-4 inches in some areas) fur and a layer of fat roughly 3.5 inches under that. They are exclusivly carnivorous and boast a paw 8-12 inches wide containing five 3-5inch claws. Typically solo creatures unless food is extremely scarce or it's mating season, so there's no real interaction except rare occasions while competing for mates or territory. Actually have poor eyesight relative to humans or in this case gorillas and rely mainly on smell to locate prey. Can be very intimidating while standing but also lose practically all mobility. The Silverback - the largest on record is 600lbs standing at 6.5. The typical adult male is 400-550 at 5-6ft tall with a wingspan of 6.5-7.5ft. Their top speed is roughly 25 mph. They are vegitarian mostly eat fruits and vegitation but new research(national geographic) suggest they may eat monkies and small forest antelopes. During territorial or dominance fights they've been recorded to use some tactics They have large hands with opposable thumbs giving them the unique abilty, over bears atleast, to hold and use "tools" or weapons(limbs and such). Though they don't hunt with tools it's common to see gorillas use rocks to break open hulls from off of nuts and or fruits. Have excellent sight and all their senses are on par with ours or better. Have been recorded leaping over twelve feet in distance and while the bear matches it's speed the bear has not real lateral movement. However the gorilla has true lateral movement giving him the "possibility to dodge the straight charges of the bear, not guaranted to dodge them but definantly able to. Also despite the common thought that gorillas have not fighting experience b/c they eat berries they actually have much more experience then the none social polar bear does. As were talking about the elite of each then the silverback would have fought hundreds of times both getting to and maintaining his leadership position while the polar bear would only have a dozen or so at the most. Sure the polar kills a lot, but not hardly ever anything with the capabilities to defend itself or fight back at all while the gorilla would have been challenged his entire life. I didn't intend to argue my case but it seems I did. After looking at the facts it seems to me that unless the polar were to get a clean hit at the head of the silver he won't win. To answer the question of how could a silver kill a polar, it's a simple matter of avoiding a straight charge from the polar by lateral movement( which the polar is incapable of) and leaping on his back, grabing his head and breaking the neck. Only one way admitidly but a very effective way. Like I said, the polar bear is a killer no doubt but the silverback IS a fighter and the straight charge of a polar thinking he's gonna just rush his Dumb prey is not going to work against a silver. To me it's just this simple, the polar is a killer and the silver is a fighter, and in a fight.... The fighter wins So, in a suprise even for me who really thought the bears size and claws would win it before I started looking around, the silverback wins this bout 7/10 times.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Mar 12, 2011 22:37:13 GMT -5
That stuff does happen Travis, but for the little its worth, the second match between you and lupkes is the most entertaining I've ever seen. Awesome stuff!!
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Feb 21, 2011 0:36:45 GMT -5
I live to far north above Greenville MS, but just wanted to say its cool of you to announce your availiable.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Feb 16, 2011 22:30:40 GMT -5
True, but I hear a lot of complaints as it is and suppose a large majority would prefer it changed shouldnt those voices and opinions be heard and if possible something done about it. Theres never going to be a perfect system that satisfies everyone, but I believe if anyone should shape what arm wrestling is or will become then it should be the arm wrestlers themselfs. So thats why I decided to ask them. I definintly agree though tantrum, and I know I'm nobody to anyone just thought I might get something stirred up and perhaps then something could change. I'm gonna try and get to contraband coming up to so hopefully that works out.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on Feb 16, 2011 6:34:32 GMT -5
I'm new to the arm wrestling community, but from watching armtv and other outlets that provide tournament footage I believe that running fouls make for an overall better tournament. Better matches, less stoppage, and less bickering. Now I don't mean major fouls that give major advantages. If you foul and win the match is rerun but if you foul and lose your opponent wins. I understand that finding the Line from major foul and a none major one could be a sticking point, but after watching worlds this year and the number of matches that were ended on fouls it got me thinking about it. I'm definitely looking for feedback and opinions across the board.
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Post by Jonathan Skinner on May 19, 2010 8:28:00 GMT -5
I ment "or my eyes in this case" not of
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