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Post by Erick "Zap" Szczap on Mar 1, 2008 8:32:12 GMT -5
While watching the Arnolds coverage on Arm TV I noticed Corey Miller mention that R.J. was getting an unfair grip by double capping. Corey said he told the refs three times that R.J. was doing it but they let him do it anyways. I didn't realize there was a rule against double capping, so long as you're not covering your opponent's thumb knuckle by doing it. Is this actually a rule I wasn't aware of?
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Mar 1, 2008 8:37:50 GMT -5
While watching the Arnolds coverage on Arm TV I noticed Corey Miller mention that R.J. was getting an unfair grip by double capping. Corey said he told the refs three times that R.J. was doing it but they let him do it anyways. I didn't realize there was a rule against double capping, so long as you're not covering your opponent's thumb knuckle by doing it. Is this actually a rule I wasn't aware of? i know a few people that like to Double cap and there is some rules that prevent that these days. Its almost impossible not to get a too high of a grip with that. Think of it look at your hand with one finger and than move the other on it |
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Post by Henry Vanburen on Mar 1, 2008 8:41:15 GMT -5
Cory should have done it to
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Post by Erick "Zap" Szczap on Mar 1, 2008 8:52:06 GMT -5
Guy, I get what you're saying, but if that was the case then Corey's complaint should've been that he couldn't see his knuckle, not that R.J. was double capping. If you watch the video, Corey demonstrates exactly what R.J.'s grip was like, and I didn't see anything wrong with it. Corey made it seem like there is a rule in place specifically against double capping, so I was just curious if that is a rule somewhere. If the real complaint is that he couldn't see his thumb knuckle then he should have said so, because that's not the impression I got.
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Mar 1, 2008 8:56:40 GMT -5
Yeah im certainly No expert on that, But I know some organizations dont allow it anymore. maybe Karen bean can elaborate
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Post by Erick "Zap" Szczap on Mar 1, 2008 8:58:30 GMT -5
Or Corey, if you're paying attention to the board while at your hotel or whatever, could you elaborate on the rule you were referring to?
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Post by Harold "Rattlesnake" Ryden on Mar 1, 2008 9:27:44 GMT -5
I personally can cap 2 fingers and still have knuckles showing! I think Henry was right in saying Corey should have done it too! Lesson learned! Never start with a grip your not happy with...!
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Post by Bill Collins on Mar 1, 2008 9:33:42 GMT -5
Erick - 2 things come into question here 1) What rules were being used? 2) Who were the referees? 1) Advertisement for the event says it is "Sanctioned by the United States Armwrestling Association, Inc." So with this in mind, USAA rules "should" be being used at this event. USAA rules state: United States Armwrestling Association Rules & Regulations 1. You may wrap only one finger in the hand grip before the "GO" 2) Again, one would think that USAA rules were to be administered, so apparently the referees were not aware of all the USAA rules and did not implement them. Who were the referees on the table during this match? As Guy stated, there are some organizations or some events that do not allow you to double cap your thumb. AAA does not care if you double, triple, etc PROVIDED your opponent's thumb knuckle is showing. Now in saying that, common sense does say that is will become physically impossible to cap with multiple fingers without covering the thumb knuckle. Karen is correct, USAA rules: you can only cap one finger as long as it does not cover thumb knuckles, I'll run a match if agreed by both armwrestlers. WAF rules: you can cap more than one as long as it don't cover the thumb knuckles. Cory should of gave a time out not started the match if he felt that was happening.. |
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Post by jamesretarides on Mar 1, 2008 9:44:03 GMT -5
If the knuckles show, let em go.
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Post by Erick "Zap" Szczap on Mar 1, 2008 10:06:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification, everyone. I was wondering which rules were used at the Arnolds. Although it seems like an unnecessary rule, a rule is a rule, so it sounds like Corey had a point.
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Post by Matt "CHOP" Bertrand on Mar 1, 2008 10:14:20 GMT -5
I think corey is just upset because RJ shut his mouth!
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Post by Will Sarty on Mar 1, 2008 10:32:18 GMT -5
If the knuckles show, let em go. Totally agree |
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Post by CHRISTIAN BINNIE on Mar 1, 2008 11:54:35 GMT -5
Was it the double capping or the "pain" in his wrist that was bothering him?
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Post by Erick "Zap" Szczap on Mar 1, 2008 12:12:41 GMT -5
He said he was feeling horrible and his hand was killing him. When Gary asked what was going on against R.J. he said "they're letting him double cap, and I told the ref three times he's double capping and you can't do that. And they were like 'no he's not'. He had his hand, just like that (Corey puts his hand up to show how R.J. was double capping) every single time....I don't like to double cap. It's not fair. It's not part of the rules."
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Post by Pete & Tim on Mar 1, 2008 12:32:51 GMT -5
How about this rule, "Shut Up And Armwrestle"?
Who cares if the cover their thumb with eight fingers, just pull.
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