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Post by simon on Mar 9, 2009 17:51:25 GMT -5
What about Simon?? How can no one have mentioned his name?  Thanks JP you know we are still just little guys they don't consider us, guess I will have to go up another weight class. |
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Post by Brandon Dye on Mar 9, 2009 18:22:15 GMT -5
@165 Chris Chandler
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Post by simon on Mar 9, 2009 18:36:48 GMT -5
Chandler was crazy, I would sit back and laugh my ass off as the west coast guys got so pissed off as he would suck them into that hook in an instant.
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Post by Travis Berggren on Mar 9, 2009 18:57:54 GMT -5
i agree chris c. matt has a good hook and drag, he is able to shut down good top rollers with his hook
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Post by John Parton on Mar 9, 2009 19:03:41 GMT -5
Andrew has a better hook than most people know. John definitely has the most technical hook like Simon says  I have never had the pleasure of pulling you Simon, but you have definitely put some horsepower into your hook, as well as improving your ability to keep from getting drug out to pulling on your bicep. I wish Andrew hadn't fouled out against you at Arnolds, it looked like you guys were having a pretty good tug! |
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Post by simon on Mar 9, 2009 19:25:23 GMT -5
Now Mr. Parton knows how to hook, I hope someday we will be able to have that war it would be an honor.
I have pulled Andrew before in a strap and against me he really does not hook per say he more uses his dragging back pressure and leverage from his rotating wrist to create a stop against me hooking him. I looks like he is hooking because I have him turned in but there is no "through" pressure it is all out.
In that Arnold match he was loading back after the initial hit trying to crack me so he could go over, after the first foul when my wrist would not go I knew I could be patient and hold him and he would end up doing it again.
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Post by Brandon Dye on Mar 9, 2009 20:19:03 GMT -5
simon, drop back to 154 so we can finally pull  i guess i could eat a few steaks and pull 176 a couple more times.. |
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Post by simon on Mar 9, 2009 20:26:06 GMT -5
rumble young man rumble......  154 no way my friend as long as I do not lose a limb you wont see me below 165. Even that would take a damn good reason. |
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Post by Will Sarty on Mar 9, 2009 20:41:40 GMT -5
what about Vazgan
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Post by Alper Cosar on Mar 9, 2009 20:50:41 GMT -5
lbs for lbs.....in north America, I agree with JAMES R. on this one name:
-------------GEORGI GELASHVILI-------------------
I wished he had more chance to pull......He was 210 lbs when I trained with team Newyork back in October and he felt like a rock in the hook.........For those of you that do not knpw Georgi- he lives n NY and pulled on Mohegun Sun beating John Brzenk in hook on left hand....He lost his right hand matches by getting toprolled.....not in the hook......He lost 5 yrs ago to Todd Hutchinks after a long battle in the hook but he was around 182lbs back then and todd was around 210.......
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Post by Mark "The Giant Slayer" vieira on Mar 9, 2009 21:30:18 GMT -5
How a bout breaking it down to weight classes.
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Post by John Wilson on Mar 9, 2009 22:24:48 GMT -5
Ibrahim Ibragimov. Usually pulled up high, but I saw him drag Oleg Chegodeyev into a deep hook that must have lasted a minute a few years back in Poland. He does not get mentioned nearly as often as he deserves. Is his hook the best ever? Who's to say. Maybe a handful of people in the world could say no... For the rest of us mortals his hook is plenty good enough to win.
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Post by enginterzi on Mar 9, 2009 23:24:38 GMT -5
How a bout breaking it down to weight classes. 121 Dmitry Ukraine 132 Vazgen USA 143 Roman Russia 154 Zoloev Russia 165 Zoloev Russia 176 Zoloev Russia 187 Rustam Ukraine 198 Brzenk USA 220 Brzenk USA 242 Brzenk USA +242 Larratt Canada JMO |
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Post by kyledarby on Mar 10, 2009 0:45:35 GMT -5
Young mr Dye has an awful impressive hook as well |
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Post by jamesretarides on Mar 10, 2009 7:47:21 GMT -5
Not that I disagree with Engin, but what about putting Zoloev (lets say 165) and John (how about 220) in one class. I could do one for North America, but for the rest of the world, you or Neil are the guys that would know.
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I have never had the pleasure of pulling you Simon, but you have definitely put some horsepower into your hook, as well as improving your ability to keep from getting drug out to pulling on your bicep. I wish Andrew hadn't fouled out against you at Arnolds, it looked like you guys were having a pretty good tug!
