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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Aug 8, 2009 9:17:47 GMT -5
^^^ this maybe true John, But a test in one major USA event cant hurt either
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Post by Ty Kissner on Aug 8, 2009 10:53:36 GMT -5
Ty, the nuts are all over on your tongue more often than people touches them since you cant stop talking about them.you must like the taste i guess.just stop pleasing people for the sake of a stupid popularity everytime i am discussing something.you can please them in private ways instead of trying to gain popularity from me.just go train compete do something in armwrestling.i know you will not become something good but still if you save your energy for training you can become from no one to an average puller at least. i actually thought of you when Charlie posted this; Great post Engin! You nailed it. But also don't forget that accusing, attacking, or just being disrespecting to the greats of our sport draw attention to the brave and cool dude who are being disrespecting. That's not a new phenomenon around here. And hey... it might even draw some attention to your new spectacular avatar that indirect might make people think you're an even cooler dude... giving the credit when its due is not being a nut swinger but you giving head to satisfy all the people who would like to read what you wrote.you giving head to people for free (actually for popularity) is a great thing to do.i am tired of you being trying to gain popularity from me.you are someone who has nothing to do with armwrestling except talking cheap.the person that i commend is a future legend,not a potato bag as yourself.nut swinger? he sees me as 3 of the legends in this sport with Brzenk and Gashevski and you potato bag call me nut swinger.i see a future great and support him but you guys are so jealous that even lost the control of the dosage about your opinions.its normal because from where you are at its not possible to judge up here.maybe you shut up and do something in armwrestling before dare to discuss armwrestling over here.who are you? no one actually one who is trying to satisfy himself by talking like an author while knowing nothing. because you are this type of person.you want to do something but just cant be good enough so you choose easier way to be popular and do these kind of sh.t.i feel sorry for you because you are a huge zero but acting like you are some thing. everytime i am in a subject ooops the potato bag is there, "let me be a key board again and say a few none sense things in a confident way so people will think that i am some sh.t since i will not have to face the person in reality.by this i am gaining the popularity that i will never gain in armwrestling" Travis is the one who lost to Arsen but look at how he handled the defeat and how some of you are behaving.Travis must be a follower as well.in fact its about jealousy of you guys; Arson Liliev - I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I to am tired of excuses that result from "SUPERMATCHES" and you will never here one from me, The truth is that Arson is as good as anyone that has ever ARMWRESTLED period! I was impressed with his balance at the table, his hand and wrists were solid, and most all, his Timing is GREAT!!!!!! Thanks for all the excuses form the AMERICAN board, I do admit it helps me sleep!!!!!!!!!! P.S. I am more impressed with how HUMBLE, RESPECTFUL, INTELLIGENCE, and most of all MATURE Mr. LILIEV is off the table! I still hate him, but I hate JOHN BRZENK just as much! Ty,get it in your mind,you are nothing.so behave according to this.and stop trying to be popular by being keyboard warrior. your too funny Engin follower has a pretty clear definition: people who glom onto other people based solely on the person's wealth, looks, or 'pull' in any given community they belong to. It's akin to serious asskissing. There's never an excuse for sucking up to others, and especially not on an internet forum, and you SIR fit the description to a T..... I do not ass kiss, suck up or glom, I call it as i see it, and i shoot straight from the hip......... secondly dnt be so high on yourself, i dnt need you as a stepping stone to gain popularity, i have many close friends and made several friends throughout armwrestling, the board is entertainment for me, its life to you and you live and die by your posts........ as for my armwrestling development, im happy where i am at, young, 25 ,strong as hell and a solid work ethic, being on my side of the fence is pretty good, a confident brash man who is entering the pinnacle of his strength development with tons of potential and lots of time to develop, but you sir your side isnt so pretty now is it......... now we can trade insults but again I dnt have time for that, what I will do tho is provide a response to Charlies post that seems to have you back on your mantle........ The reason PPL insult the greats and i am being truthfully honest is not because of what you accomplished...but due to you being A$$HOLES to the regular ppl, yeah you will show respect to "THE ELITES" but your turn your nose up at everyone else in the sport......why do you think guys like John,Devon, Charlie, Neil Pascal and others are shown Greats amount of respect because they are humble and modest, yet YOU ENGIN every time someone disagrees with you try to belittle them and discredit them because you are a 16 time waf and eaf champion so you must no all, truth is you have acomplished many more than most nut yoou will never reach legendary status because quite frankly you act like a pompus A$$HOLE here on the board and many ppl feel that way......but then again you are the know all and end all of armwrestling right ......... I may just ever end up being a bag of potatoes in this sport but at least I wont end up a cranky jealous old man trying to hang on to past glory and swing from one mans nuts to another, how many has it been now engin 5 maybe 10 mans nuts you have swung on since i have joined the board....... and just so were clear this post is PAPI'S opinion towards engin and the post directed at me, i am in no such way trying to gain any benefit in terms of popularity, friendship or monetary value, i am simply pointing out some things that needed to be said a long time ago.......
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Post by Ty Kissner on Aug 8, 2009 10:55:27 GMT -5
One more thing too engin, Do not judge, yet lest ye be judged you have no FUC*ING CLUE what type of person I AM, and never will cuz your head is to far up your ass to see more than the SH@T that come outta your mouth........and yes i am judging you cuz I am the type of person that will allow himself to be judged by others.....
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Post by brzenk on Aug 8, 2009 11:17:44 GMT -5
GUY…IMO, and as many others have stated it may be a waste of money …I would like to ask you then, will it then be enough for you, or will you continue with other reasons why you think the competition is cheating you. Will peptide enhancers become the new excuse for you? Can it ever end ? Everyone has a different line drawn on what is acceptable. period. Off subject I have often thought about what I would choose and do if there was a million dollar prize to be had at a one time event…ok ok maybe 100,000 ;D First of all, would I trust testing enough to choose this option and be clean as a whistle going into a event with this much at stake. OR would I rather choose the no rules.. No Limits approach and do what ever I could to be the best I could be without killing myself of course . ;D I have to be honest I think with that amount at stake and knowing my competition I would personally choose the second option because of my lack of trust in the ability of testing to be all effective. I think for me personally the easier tournament to win would be the second choice. And yes to put it into perspective I think I can, and would win this approach much easier than the first. yes I have a price. Pro players go through this thought process all the time I would guess. Not easy at all.
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 8, 2009 11:19:05 GMT -5
I do not ass kiss, suck up or glom, I call it as i see it, and i shoot straight from the hip......... you are Ty Ass kisser,and that is why you need to jump here everytime i discuss something because you need some popularity and you think it makes you popular. secondly dnt be so high on yourself, i dnt need you as a stepping stone to gain popularity, i have many close friends and made several friends throughout armwrestling, the board is entertainment for me, its life to you and you live and die by your posts........ you sure need this and proud of your ignorance.and the time proves this all the time that you just cant stay away from me,that is what makes you alive in the armwrestling board.you are a parasite that is stuck on my balls. as for my armwrestling development, im happy where i am at, young, 25 ,strong as hell and a solid work ethic, being on my side of the fence is pretty good, a confident brash man who is entering the pinnacle of his strength development with tons of potential and lots of time to develop, but you sir your side isnt so pretty now is it......... ha ha ha just shut up and prove your words idiot.. The reason PPL insult the greats and i am being truthfully honest is not because of what you accomplished...but due to you being A$$HOLES to the regular ppl, yeah you will show respect to "THE ELITES" but your turn your nose up at everyone else in the sport...... idiot no one but no one ever shared with regular armwrestlers more than i did.everything that i know for years by pms and emails and since i opened the web site i do by web site.my problem is only with idiots as yourself.if we are discussing about armwrestling then of course that i will respect the opinions and careers of the top pullers since they deserve it.should i respect your opinions while you are nothing but a parasite on my balls? why do you think guys like John,Devon, Charlie, Neil Pascal and others are shown Greats amount of respect because they are humble and modest, yet YOU ENGIN every time someone disagrees with you try to belittle them and discredit them because you are a 16 time waf and eaf champion so you must no all, truth is you have acomplished many more than most nut yoou will never reach legendary status because quite frankly you act like a pompus A$$HOLE here on the board and many ppl feel that way......but then again you are the know all and end all of armwrestling right ......... dont worry,the respect that i receive from certain people is enough for me as your respect would have been the worst thing ever happenned to me.if my opinions are highly valued by the people who knows what armwrestling is but not valued by the ignorants as yourself then this shows that i am on the right path. I may just ever end up being a bag of potatoes in this sport but at least I wont end up a cranky jealous old man trying to hang on to past glory and swing from one mans nuts to another, how many has it been now engin 5 maybe 10 mans nuts you have swung on since i have joined the board....... past glory? just took 3. at the europeans moron.could you ever dream yourself placing 5. at such a high level event? not "you may end up as a potato bag" you are created to be a potato bag. i am armwrestling author and giving credits to athletes who deserves is being objective and fair.because they deserve it,as you deserve a potato bag opinion from me. and just so were clear this post is PAPI'S opinion towards engin and the post directed at me, i am in no such way trying to gain any benefit in terms of popularity, friendship or monetary value, i am simply pointing out some things that needed to be said a long time ago....... another hopeless try by a forever potato bag who will never become over average ..
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 8, 2009 11:40:36 GMT -5
why do you think that the best armwrestling site ever offered me to do this rankings? www.worldofarmwrestling.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=60 why was this part given to me on the web site of the worlds best pro organisation? www.armpower.net/?page=zapytaj_mistrzow why would legend status given to me here on this best board in the world? why did i receive the worlds best male athlete in 2003 WAF? why did John Brzenk mention his respect for my knowledge and opinions front of other people? why would even the top athletes ask my opinions? why am i still pulling WAF and EAF for none stop 17. year while all others retired? why do you think that i am sharing with everyone without making any exception about their levels? hell i dont even know most of the members in person but still take time to help them because they are not parasites but armwrestlers with serious intentions to better themselves. www.enginterzi.net/forum/ i can count for probably a few more hours but your head which is full of grass couldnt get it,that a potato can end up with being french fries and it doesnt change the fact.that is because people who knows about this game knows who i am while i dont expect you to understand it.
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Post by Ty Kissner on Aug 8, 2009 11:42:40 GMT -5
I do not ass kiss, suck up or glom, I call it as i see it, and i shoot straight from the hip......... you are Ty Ass kisser,and that is why you need to jump here everytime i discuss something because you need some popularity and you think it makes you popular. you sure need this and proud of your ignorance.and the time proves this all the time that you just cant stay away from me,that is what makes you alive in the armwrestling board.you are a parasite that is stuck on my balls. ha ha ha just shut up and prove your words idiot.. idiot no one but no one ever shared with regular armwrestlers more than i did.everything that i know for years by pms and emails and since i opened the web site i do by web site.my problem is only with idiots as yourself.if we are discussing about armwrestling then of course that i will respect the opinions and careers of the top pullers since they deserve it.should i respect your opinions while you are nothing but a parasite on my balls? dont worry,the respect that i receive from certain people is enough for me as your respect would have been the worst thing ever happenned to me.if my opinions are highly valued by the people who knows what armwrestling is but not valued by the ignorants as yourself then this shows that i am on the right path. past glory? just took 3. at the europeans moron.could you ever dream yourself placing 5. at such a high level event? not "you may end up as a potato bag" you are created to be a potato bag. i am armwrestling author and giving credits to athletes who deserves is being objective and fair.because they deserve it,as you deserve a potato bag opinion from me. and just so were clear this post is PAPI'S opinion towards engin and the post directed at me, i am in no such way trying to gain any benefit in terms of popularity, friendship or monetary value, i am simply pointing out some things that needed to be said a long time ago....... another hopeless try by a forever potato bag who will never become over average .. i know i shouldnt but now I have too........... 1. You have parasites on your balls, might wanna get it checked out. 2. you have to be slow or developmentally disabled. you are uanable to comprehend suck posts as the detailed one i provided.. 3. You want so badly to believe your opinion of me is right that you continuously say i use u to gain popularity when the truth is I chime in because i have zero tolerance for ppl that act the way you do so i feel obligated to point out how your posts make you look and yet again your unable to comprehend.... 4. objective and fair, no fuc@ing chance, you are the most biases homer on the board... 5. Lastly enjoy the rest of your weekend.......
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Post by Guy Lasorsa on Aug 8, 2009 11:42:50 GMT -5
John I THINK THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME DEBATE AS YOU SAID above. I also think testing may not be fool proof it could be helpful to some peoples views and to keep at least one tournament alittle more honest, say the Unified nationals. At least there would be one event, than let the pros and other tournaments do as they please. At least in some minds it will be a seperation of some sort. Than if someone thinks someone has bitch tits they will still say it Im sure. I dont compete at that level enough to feel cheated often , and I could take all the drugs in the world and still couldnt touch you. I still say your the best even if you never beat Devon at this point in your life. But honestly i do know for fact i have been cheated and had it rubbed in my face and its that more than anything that fuels my anger. I know too much about a couple people and have seen there performances and felt them on the table off and on like a roller coaster ride to know the difference. And to top it off There are people i trust in the know to that fact and witnessed such buys, so there is no denying.. A lot of my anger stems from this more than anything else thats not personal to me , although Im sure it seems otherwise . I know I join in on almost every one of these type conversations and use generalization facts enough of about me I dont think one tournament drug free will solve a whole lot, But it will bring a little seperation to this matter and calm it a little in some areas. P.S Ill have to look up peptide enhancers
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Post by enginterzi on Aug 8, 2009 11:51:20 GMT -5
you too have a great weekend parasite,hopefully you will find some other things to provide popularity for yourself instead of being a parasite.
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Post by Charlie Minell on Aug 8, 2009 12:00:17 GMT -5
Pete, Guy and Ty.. I'd appreciate it a lot if you could remove that picture from page 12 in this thread. It is a copyright protected picture with my name on it, and I don't want that any of my material are being used to belittle competitors of this great sport. I am also very sure that the sponsors of the Istanbul event wouldn't be happy to see that this was one of the results of their spent money. For the sake of the sport, please remove it. Thanks!
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Post by Andrew Fournier on Aug 8, 2009 17:39:00 GMT -5
Pete. Shame on you even if you tried to do it in good humor. Andrew, yes you did crack our secret training formula. In Stalin's days I would have executed for letting you on the details. We take 100 kids from their families. Put them on steroid and hgh enriched diets. At 14-15 amazing changes start to take place. Their voices change, some start to grow hair in some places, many start beating their coaches after just 6 months in the sport. In our hush-hush circles we call this phenomenon PUBERTY. But these 12 and 13 year old are smart. After reading your posts, they are the ones who concluded, that this middle aged american (sorry but in Russia with average life expectancy at 59, they placed you in that category) only trashes people he has no intentions on crossing paths with. Before any of them start pulling, they have to learn to respect other athletes, refs, coaches and rules(even if they do not like them) that this sport is governed by. Until sample B tests positive, please show some respect. These kids are inspired by their club members bringing 2 golds from Canada, 6 golds and 3 silvers from the europeans. I am as pissed at steroid presence as anybody here. Maybe current testing is not enough, but it is step in the right direction of weeding out the cheats. As far as Arsen is concerned, here are my thoughts. If a healthy 18 year old boy, spends 4 years of just eating, training, resting and competing and does not show growth comparable to Arsen's, that boy was given a weaker blend of genes by mom and pop. I have observed Arsen over the last 4 years. The growth was gradual and not an overnight. Lets not compare his dieted down body 2-3 years ago to off-season shape today. If you think his change is drastic, you should look at hundreds of thousands of russian 18 year olds who get drafted to the army as boys and 2 years later as mature, strong both mentally and physically men. And that with all the malnutrition russian army is notorious for. Lets keep it clean. LMAO. Do you even know me? I actually attended the olympic training center when I was 16 years old. I know all about serious training and life dedication to a sport. I have played numerous sports w/great success. I may have never reached the TOP 10 IN THE WORLD, but obviously few will. I have competed on the national level in 3 different sports (skating, hockey, armwrestling). I own my own skateboarding company, I surf, rollerblade, and rockclimb. You guys are getting so worked up, I can't help but laugh my @ss off. You fail to apologize, but ask me to keep it clean. Are you serious? You guys come up with every excuse in the world why I made such a comment, but fail to realize I told you why I did. LOL. You can go tell your little X-Men School of Future, Disposable-Brzenks that I Personally Said They can "LICK MY BALLZ".
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Post by Steve Kirlew on Aug 8, 2009 17:40:45 GMT -5
All this talk and all these allegations are nothing more than childish excuses. “Why I’m not as good as the other GUY. There has to be a reason why I’m not as good …” Funny 30 years later and the talk is still the same. No test will ever stop this …. John, These are not necessarilly childish excuses...it's a fact that steroids make you stronger and it becomes increasingly difficult to compete (as a natural puller) with anyone who's got a good genetic foundation, trains hard and is on steroids. Fact. I've accepted that I can never be the best without steroids.
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Post by Alexander Pozdnyakov on Aug 8, 2009 20:12:37 GMT -5
Pete. Shame on you even if you tried to do it in good humor. Andrew, yes you did crack our secret training formula. In Stalin's days I would have executed for letting you on the details. We take 100 kids from their families. Put them on steroid and hgh enriched diets. At 14-15 amazing changes start to take place. Their voices change, some start to grow hair in some places, many start beating their coaches after just 6 months in the sport. In our hush-hush circles we call this phenomenon PUBERTY. But these 12 and 13 year old are smart. After reading your posts, they are the ones who concluded, that this middle aged american (sorry but in Russia with average life expectancy at 59, they placed you in that category) only trashes people he has no intentions on crossing paths with. Before any of them start pulling, they have to learn to respect other athletes, refs, coaches and rules(even if they do not like them) that this sport is governed by. Until sample B tests positive, please show some respect. These kids are inspired by their club members bringing 2 golds from Canada, 6 golds and 3 silvers from the europeans. I am as pissed at steroid presence as anybody here. Maybe current testing is not enough, but it is step in the right direction of weeding out the cheats. As far as Arsen is concerned, here are my thoughts. If a healthy 18 year old boy, spends 4 years of just eating, training, resting and competing and does not show growth comparable to Arsen's, that boy was given a weaker blend of genes by mom and pop. I have observed Arsen over the last 4 years. The growth was gradual and not an overnight. Lets not compare his dieted down body 2-3 years ago to off-season shape today. If you think his change is drastic, you should look at hundreds of thousands of russian 18 year olds who get drafted to the army as boys and 2 years later as mature, strong both mentally and physically men. And that with all the malnutrition russian army is notorious for. Lets keep it clean. LMAO. Do you even know me? I actually attended the olympic training center when I was 16 years old. I know all about serious training and life dedication to a sport. I have played numerous sports w/great success. I may have never reached the TOP 10 IN THE WORLD, but obviously few will. I have competed on the national level in 3 different sports (skating, hockey, armwrestling). I own my own skateboarding company, I surf, rollerblade, and rockclimb. You guys are getting so worked up, I can't help but laugh my @ss off. You fail to apologize, but ask me to keep it clean. Are you serious? You guys come up with every excuse in the world why I made such a comment, but fail to realize I told you why I did. LOL. You can go tell your little X-Men School of Future, Disposable-Brzenks that I Personally Said They can "LICK MY BALLZ". Just reread my original post and once again reaffirmed the fact that I am talking to a no gut, destined for mediocrity wannabe. Stop calling yourself an athlete. Your latest posts once again reveal how shallow you are. Oh, you achieved good results in many sports but never made it to the top. No doubt there is place for people that just enjoy participation and have no heart to push themselves until they puke their guts out. I am sure you have your walls and shelves filled with plaques and trophies from various events. Many kids in your country have that too. If you just like participation, please stop calling yourself an athlete. Stick with Armwrestling Aficionado. I am sorry I made you snap like that. GO look at your mediocre trophies and you'll feel better. As far as your balls go, first hire a search and rescue team to find them, since you jumped onto this discussion forum lacking them. And trust me your falsetto is heard loud and clear on this side of the pond. Thriller.
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Post by Alexander Pozdnyakov on Aug 8, 2009 20:25:35 GMT -5
I will take 500 us dollars of my own money and bet it against the group collectivley that IF YOU PISS TESTED ALL 10 of the top 10 armwrestlers ranked by Mr. TERZI around the time of les say RENO or Nemiroff Cup more than 50% of them would fail that test... $500. Wow. What a Giant offer to keep the sport clean. Listen, I will give you $1,000,000 if you walk on the Moon. Of course you have to pay for your own ride there and back. Lately some members have been turning this board into a contest of who can make the most obnoxious bet knowing they would not be called on it. From self-mutilating de-balling to this all-in offer for a top athlete pee in a cup, get it tested, pay for it out of his pocket and if it turns up clean, he would get partial reimbursement in the amount of Wow, let me get my breath, $500 US. What the heck happened to "Thinking before opening one's mouth"?
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Post by Alexander Pozdnyakov on Aug 8, 2009 20:57:13 GMT -5
Oh, 'associates'. How official. I have no problem answering to you in person. Just give me the date and time. But I get this silly old man feeling your underachieving behind will stay planted solid where it is at right now.
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