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Post by Dan Benoit on May 30, 2011 15:00:38 GMT -5
I wish I could have been there Max....no excuses I tried but it just didnt happen
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Post by Max Moore on May 30, 2011 15:16:21 GMT -5
I wish I could have been there Max....no excuses I tried but it just didnt happen its all good. it woulda been nice to have had some more people in the 242 class.....compared to the others......it was by far the easiest at the tournament IMO. i shoulda dropped to 220.  ima get my arms all healed up soon hopefully.they are both trashed. i just cant catch a break. lol my left was already injured before SEC....and now its REALLY hurtin after Karl tried to remove it from my body. lol |
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Post by David Owens on May 30, 2011 20:37:28 GMT -5
have it your way people what have we learned from this thread OVERALL matches are the same as regular matches ;D DAVID OWENS is the MAN  thanks Max |
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Post by TK on Jun 8, 2011 17:56:05 GMT -5
220 RANKINGS UPDATED.
ENJOY!
T/K
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Post by Chris Heath on Jun 11, 2011 19:47:57 GMT -5
Ok guys, I am getting motivated again. I want to hit one of Mr. Kings events to prove myself. At least left handed. Getting MRI thurs on right shoulder so right side it out of commission. See you guys soon.
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Post by Robert Miller on Jun 11, 2011 20:04:04 GMT -5
Here, here... Like to make one of TK's tournys myself one day! Sorry to hear about the right Chris... hope you heal-up quick bud!!
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Post by TK on Jun 12, 2011 4:28:02 GMT -5
Ok guys, I am getting motivated again. I want to hit one of Mr. Kings events to prove myself. At least left handed. Getting MRI thurs on right shoulder so right side it out of commission. See you guys soon. The one on July 16th could very well have Vickers Wilson Burton Stanley in the same class....  ) Good luck with that! Sorry to hear about your shoulder bud, Take care, TK |
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Post by Christina Casto on Jul 4, 2011 10:18:01 GMT -5
OK LIKE I SAID YOU NEED TO ADD DOUG CASTO TO THIS MIX. HE IS PULLING 220'S NOW. WON AAA NATIONALS WITH SOME GREAT PULLS AGAINST JIM BRYAN.
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Post by TK on Jul 4, 2011 11:07:32 GMT -5
*TOURNAMENTS ATTENDED + OUT OF STATE ATTENDED X NATIONALS ^ WORLDS $ SUPER-MATCH / ROUND ROBIN THROUGH VOTE! 2011 SEC 220 RANKINGS RIGHT HAND 1. KURT VICKERS (GA) 2. TIM MCPHERSON (GA) 3. STUMP BURTON (GA)+$ 4. TERRY BURGIN (AL) 5. JOSH ELETON (GA) 6. KARL STANLEY (FL)**$ 7. JOHN WILSON (FL) 8. CHRIS THOMAS (FL) 9. JAMES BATTLES (FL)* 10. DARNELL BURRIS (NC)** 11. CHRIS HEATH (VA)++ 12. GILES RUSSELL SR. (NC)* 13. JOHN THORNE (VA) LEFT HAND 220 1. KARL STANLEY (FL)**$ 2. KURT VICKERS (GA) 3. TIM MCPHERSON (GA) 4. JOHN WILSON (FL)**$ 5. DARNELL BURRIS (NC)** 6. CHRIS HEATH (VA)++ 7. STUMP BURTON (GA) 8. CHRIS THOMAS (FL)* 9.. GILES RUSSELL SR. (NC)* 10.JOHN THORNE (VA) ***INACTIVE LIST*** FRITZ COREY (SC) TOURNAMENTS IN THE SEC 1. Jan. 15 2011 ZX Armwrestling Challenge (NC)(RETARIDES) 2. JAN. 22 2011 Xtreme Power Armwrestling (FL)(BATTLES) 3. FEB 19 2011 GET A GRIP (NC)(BEAN) 4. MAR 05 2011 PULLING WARS 3 (FL)(TK) 5. APR 30 2011 CONTRABAND (LA)(CHOP) 6. APR 30 2011 SHOW OF CHAMPIONS (FL)(WATTLES) 7. MAY 21 201 SEC REGIONALS (GA)(SAA) Christina, Where do we add Doug? Is there someone he beat at AAA's that has beaten any of these ranked guys? TK |
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Post by Giles Russell on Jul 4, 2011 22:11:13 GMT -5
*TOURNAMENTS ATTENDED + OUT OF STATE ATTENDED X NATIONALS ^ WORLDS $ SUPER-MATCH / ROUND ROBIN THROUGH VOTE! 2011 SEC 220 RANKINGS RIGHT HAND 1. KURT VICKERS (GA) 2. TIM MCPHERSON (GA) 3. STUMP BURTON (GA)+$ 4. TERRY BURGIN (AL) 5. JOSH ELETON (GA) 6. KARL STANLEY (FL)**$ 7. JOHN WILSON (FL) 8. CHRIS THOMAS (FL) 9. JAMES BATTLES (FL)* 10. DARNELL BURRIS (NC)** 11. CHRIS HEATH (VA)++ 12. GILES RUSSELL SR. (NC)* 13. JOHN THORNE (VA) LEFT HAND 220 1. KARL STANLEY (FL)**$ 2. KURT VICKERS (GA) 3. TIM MCPHERSON (GA) 4. JOHN WILSON (FL)**$ 5. DARNELL BURRIS (NC)** 6. CHRIS HEATH (VA)++ 7. STUMP BURTON (GA) 8. CHRIS THOMAS (FL)* 9.. GILES RUSSELL SR. (NC)* 10.JOHN THORNE (VA) ***INACTIVE LIST*** FRITZ COREY (SC) TOURNAMENTS IN THE SEC 1. Jan. 15 2011 ZX Armwrestling Challenge (NC)(RETARIDES) 2. JAN. 22 2011 Xtreme Power Armwrestling (FL)(BATTLES) 3. FEB 19 2011 GET A GRIP (NC)(BEAN) 4. MAR 05 2011 PULLING WARS 3 (FL)(TK) 5. APR 30 2011 CONTRABAND (LA)(CHOP) 6. APR 30 2011 SHOW OF CHAMPIONS (FL)(WATTLES) 7. MAY 21 201 SEC REGIONALS (GA)(SAA) Christina, Where do we add Doug? Is there someone he beat at AAA's that has beaten any of these ranked guys? TK Seriously? I'll see if I can help...as I beat my head on the desk! You rank him 1st! Because: 1. he just beat frickin' Jim Bryan (WORLD CHAMPION) and none of those guys could beat Jim. 2. The only other Nat'l champs on your list are Battles, Thornes and My old man (masters). Pretty big deal. 3. If you have paid attention at all over the past 4 years, you would of seen him take 2nd to Bresnan in Buffalo 07? Beat Paul Walthers in the 242's SC in 09 and basically be a beast anywhere he's pulled.. Now, I've never even really met the guy so, I'm not rooting for "my boy". He hasn't gotten out much but he's been a bad dude in the heavies so, if he can stay at 220, he's the man. Trust me. Only, problem will be that he only goes to 1-2 a year. Now one more order of business.... You must have something against the name Russell because, yall have also have been blindfolded when my old man has pulled on armtv or when the results have been posted on the board. RH, he has wins over some national level quality dudes first off and then, as far as the SE goes, he has beat Darnell B. (no disrespect intended) every time they've pulled. Hasn't pulled many of the others (of course) but had wars with Tim M last sept and just took James R to the wire in a couple of 1min long strap matches in April. Why don't you ask James and Tim where he should be? Some of your hometown heros, should of had to beat him to get ranked above him. LH he has beat Darnell B. every time they've pulled once again and just beat C. Heath in April and then won the overalls. Side note: I'm pretty sure C. Heath's right is out of commish for a while and Thornes hasn't been to a tourney in a year or so. |
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Post by 'Stump' Burton on Jul 4, 2011 23:16:55 GMT -5
"None of those guys could beat Jim Bryan", that is an opinion not a fact. With all due respect to doug, if im not mistaken, Jim Bryan beat Doug on Friday night.
Doug I watched you win the nationals man, great pulling. I am a fan.
As far as having something against the Russells, thats bull sh__. Noone has anything against anyone. There are no home town heros. A committee voted, not just one person. I agree they need to be in the mix but not straight to the top.
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Post by David Owens on Jul 5, 2011 0:09:38 GMT -5
this is a never ending moan and groan fest.  I'M OVER IT!!! first of all let me say this national titles mean NOTHING!!!! when it comes to rankings, unless you beat somebody above you to get that title. case in point Jerry Avants wins AAA nationals last year and I can't name one person he beat to win that title. CAN YOU? ANYBODY? no disrespect to any National Champions but until there is only one,and you CANNOT win a national title with 3 in your class, they will hold very little sway IMO. I dont care how many on the list are not national champions because they have ALL beat National Champions. second, Tom Nelson beat Tim Bresnan at UAL KOTH and just got DESTROYED by Don Underwood who Tim seemed to beat with ease in their last supermatch. STYLES MAKE MATCHUPS and there are a million things that can attibute to a win. (set up, ref, fouls, sick, my dog ate my homework yaddayadda) so unless its head to head this will not help rankings Further more if someone pulls twice a year and not at all in this region why would they be added to the list ,to say nobody on that list could beat Jim Bryan is a little funed especially when none of them have pulled. lastly I will never understand why people pretend to care nothing about rankings and constantly complain when people put them togather, it doesnt matter how many variations of the rankings we were to post when its all said and done NO MATTER WHAT somebody is gonna complain EVERY SINGLE TIME, I dont know why we bother, its why Johnny gave up, its why the ITH rankings use a million different reasons to rank one guy over the next "well he has only beat him once" we damn I guess we need to start keeping record and the only way to pass someone will be to beat him more times than he has beat you this is a very simple fix, FIND the person who you think has your spot and pull him, if not then there is no arguement, or pull enough that you eventually run into people in front of you and knock them off. Frankly sick of the  I understand we have a large region and not everyone pulls each other but that doesnt mean we should just make it up as we go along based on two other guys matches, In Giles Sr case if he has beaten someone recently that he should be in front (exp Chris Heath) of then a move is due, otherwise I'm not about to try and guess at this point in the game, you dont get brownie points for beating someone who is not in the region because then we are back to ranking by opinion and I will not participate for the time being Doug Casto is inactive for the region unless he has pulled inside it, or somebody from it in the last 6 months. If he has pulled in the region who has he beat and thats the spot he should take |
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Post by TK on Jul 5, 2011 5:06:19 GMT -5
this is a never ending moan and groan fest. I'M OVER IT!!! first of all let me say this national titles mean NOTHING!!!! when it comes to rankings, unless you beat somebody above you to get that title. case in point Jerry Avants wins AAA nationals last year and I can't name one person he beat to win that title. CAN YOU? ANYBODY? no disrespect to any National Champions but until there is only one,and you CANNOT win a national title with 3 in your class, they will hold very little sway IMO. I dont care how many on the list are not national champions because they have ALL beat National Champions. second, Tom Nelson beat Tim Bresnan at UAL KOTH and just got DESTROYED by Don Underwood who Tim seemed to beat with ease in their last supermatch. STYLES MAKE MATCHUPS and there are a million things that can attibute to a win. (set up, ref, fouls, sick, my dog ate my homework yaddayadda) so unless its head to head this will not help rankings Further more if someone pulls twice a year and not at all in this region why would they be added to the list ,to say nobody on that list could beat Jim Bryan is a little funed especially when none of them have pulled. lastly I will never understand why people pretend to care nothing about rankings and constantly complain when people put them togather, it doesnt matter how many variations of the rankings we were to post when its all said and done NO MATTER WHAT somebody is gonna complain EVERY SINGLE TIME, I dont know why we bother, its why Johnny gave up, its why the ITH rankings use a million different reasons to rank one guy over the next "well he has only beat him once" we damn I guess we need to start keeping record and the only way to pass someone will be to beat him more times than he has beat you this is a very simple fix, FIND the person who you think has your spot and pull him, if not then there is no arguement, or pull enough that you eventually run into people in front of you and knock them off. Frankly sick of the I understand we have a large region and not everyone pulls each other but that doesnt mean we should just make it up as we go along based on two other guys matches, In Giles Sr case if he has beaten someone recently that he should be in front (exp Chris Heath) of then a move is due, otherwise I'm not about to try and guess at this point in the game, you dont get brownie points for beating someone who is not in the region because then we are back to ranking by opinion and I will not participate for the time being Doug Casto is inactive for the region unless he has pulled inside it, or somebody from it in the last 6 months. If he has pulled in the region who has he beat and thats the spot he should take I can agree with that. |
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Post by TK on Jul 5, 2011 5:41:05 GMT -5
Christina, Where do we add Doug? Is there someone he beat at AAA's that has beaten any of these ranked guys? TK Seriously? I'll see if I can help...as I beat my head on the desk! You rank him 1st! Because: 1. he just beat frickin' Jim Bryan (WORLD CHAMPION) and none of those guys could beat Jim. 2. The only other Nat'l champs on your list are Battles, Thornes and My old man (masters). Pretty big deal. 3. If you have paid attention at all over the past 4 years, you would of seen him take 2nd to Bresnan in Buffalo 07? Beat Paul Walthers in the 242's SC in 09 and basically be a beast anywhere he's pulled.. Now, I've never even really met the guy so, I'm not rooting for "my boy". He hasn't gotten out much but he's been a bad dude in the heavies so, if he can stay at 220, he's the man. Trust me. Only, problem will be that he only goes to 1-2 a year. Now one more order of business.... You must have something against the name Russell because, yall have also have been blindfolded when my old man has pulled on armtv or when the results have been posted on the board. RH, he has wins over some national level quality dudes first off and then, as far as the SE goes, he has beat Darnell B. (no disrespect intended) every time they've pulled. Hasn't pulled many of the others (of course) but had wars with Tim M last sept and just took James R to the wire in a couple of 1min long strap matches in April. Why don't you ask James and Tim where he should be? Some of your hometown heros, should of had to beat him to get ranked above him. LH he has beat Darnell B. every time they've pulled once again and just beat C. Heath in April and then won the overalls. Side note: I'm pretty sure C. Heath's right is out of commish for a while and Thornes hasn't been to a tourney in a year or so. Giles this basically why we have a committee to do this. If one person flailed their opinion across these rankings it would be crazy! If you can provide us a proof of win For SR like a copy and paste result that he's placed higher than the aforementioned pullers in 2011..... I'll be glad to bring forward a motion for you..... As far as the Jim Bryan thing.... It's opinion only...... We're not building a hall of fame for 2007.... Were building active results. I don't have anything against the Russells even though y'all have been more than hatefull towards me. If you win you'll rank... Nuttin personal ! TK |
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Post by Giles Russell on Jul 5, 2011 6:56:17 GMT -5
I don't pretend not to care. I got turned off in the beginning because, for the most part yall were way biased towards your locals when u did the initial rankings. Some of you have hardly ever pulled outside your area. Not trying to moan and groan, I just think if you're gonna do rankings, you should at least watch arm tv and/or pay attention to what guys are doing around the US. At least have some sort of national perspective.
No sh!t, there are 3 nat'ls and some are harder than others. But if they are so easy to win, why haven't any of the top 5 won one yet? Dave are you telling me that you think any of these top 10 could beat Paul Walther or Jim Bryan? If so, then I'm saying you're clueless. Sorry. What if Casto beat Breznk? Marcio? Tom Nelson? Would he still need to "hunt down" Stump and Kurt Vickers??? LMAO!
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I understand we have a large region and not everyone pulls each other but that doesnt mean we should just make it up as we go along based on two other guys matches, In Giles Sr case if he has beaten someone recently that he should be in front (exp Chris Heath) of then a move is due, otherwise I'm not about to try and guess at this point in the game, you dont get brownie points for beating someone who is not in the region because then we are back to ranking by opinion and I will not participate